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Badminton Rules!
November 29, 2013
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Peter Warman
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Hi, I will write this post again as I wrote it once before a few days ago via my mobile but it's obviously not saved it properly (even though it said it did). This website doesn't display too kindly for my mobile either, preferred the old look, but each to their own!

 

ANYWAY! Basically, I was playing a game and the shuttle was hit to the tram lines about waist height. I ran over and hit a return shot about chest height. However, some how, don't ask me, I managed to hit the shot around the post and it landed in! My shot was about the middle of net and went round the post and landed on the line.

 

I said it was a foul shot as it was net height for a start but someone who was watching said that this shot was OK and that it was in the rules Surprised.

 

Can someone clarify for me whether this shot was legit or not? We played let in the end (seemed like the best thing to do). It's one of those rules that I wouldn't have a clue where to start to look for it (I'm looking purely out of interest, it's not a shot I intend to repeat! Confused Laugh), so some help would be great!

 

Whilst I'm here, does anyone know any “strange” shots that are allowed or “strange” rules? 

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November 29, 2013
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I've had loads of arguments about this very point Pete. The law 13.3.3 states it is a fault if the shuttle fails to pass over the net.

It's always handy to carry a copy of the laws with you,especially at a match. Anyone wanting a PDF of the laws go to here http://www.bwfbadminton.org

Hope this helps. Will try to think of some anomalies and post later.

 

Roger

November 30, 2013
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You say around the post ? Roger's right, clearly says “over the net”. Around the post is not over the net.

Only have 1 story I was involved in: a shot clearly on its way to go out, but hit the top of the post and landed in on the other side of the net. I was happy like a kid Laugh. Accidentally a judge in our club was watching, and said is was a correct shot, since the post is part of the game, and the shuttle landed in.

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December 2, 2013
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Great story Ed, it would appear that the judge is correct as the only things I can find from Roger's link is:

 

13.3.6 touches any other object or person outside the court; (but the posts are on the court)

 

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15.1 it strikes the net or post and starts to fall towards the surface of the court on the striker’s side of the net; (which it didn't, if fell on the other side of the net)

 

Might practice that shot on club nights Wink, a bit tricky to execute and to get some sort of consistency but would be a lethal shot! Laugh Cool

 

P.S. Edited as post not displaying how I wrote it! Any chance of bringing the old forum format back Paul? Smile

 
 

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December 3, 2013
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Sadly I can't as I updated the website to be mobile responsive. For some reason software get's updated and once done you simply can't go back.

 

With regard to this post, here's a question for you. A player hits a shot from the net and immediately after the shot touches the net. But the shuttle hits his opponent at the same time. Technically the shuttle is therefore not in play but a decision needs to be made who faulted first.

 

Interesting one.

 

I always carry a copy of the rules in my bag. Apart from the completely ignorant player whom I seem to meet regularly, there are also the types who couldn't care what the rules say. Different attitudes.

 

I was at a club last night, playing for once. The shuttles were terrible and I asked one of the younger players what he would do about them in a match. This shuttle was 4 ft short. Another player chirped in, well you change the shuttle which I agreed. The question was then asked by me. What if all of the shuttles tested the same. Well, we'd play the match was the response. I said I wouldn't play which they found incredible.

 

For me, if the shuttle is that slow, then the damage that can be done is simply not worth it.

 

What I didn't tell them is that I always have shuttles in my bag so we could play but I wanted to check understanding or lack of in this case.

 

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December 5, 2013
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In answer to your double fault question Paul. Without knowing beyond doubt who had the first fault I think playing a let is the fairest outcome.

This happened at my club last week in a match.

It was men's doubles and the score was 19 – 18 to us on the deciding game. In the rally for the next point one of our pair sportingly called a fault on a shot he had made. His partner immediately told him to withdraw the call as” there is no such thing as a foul shot in the game any more”. The player stood by his decision and, you probably guessed, our pair lost the following point and the game.

The hapless fault caller was still being harangued by his partner and other members of the team after the match had finished but still stood by his guns.

I did not witness the incident but was told about it on the next club night and decided that, in the name peace and fairness, clarification was required. 

I asked fault caller what happened and he said that he played a shot and, in the same single stroke, the shuttle hit the shaft of his racket and his strings. There you are said a gleeful partner, no fault.

Out came the laws.

Who do YOU think was right.   

December 5, 2013
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Hi Roger,
As you stated it hit the shaft then the strings, as opposed the head/strings I’d say it was a clear double hit and a fault. The blokes “fault” call was correct.

December 6, 2013
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Paul Stewart said:

With regard to this post, here's a question for you. A player hits a shot from the net and immediately after the shot touches the net. But the shuttle hits his opponent at the same time. Technically the shuttle is therefore not in play but a decision needs to be made who faulted first.

Hi Paul,

 

Firstly, hello! Haven't been around for awhile due to lack of time etc – still pop on every now and then to see what's happening.

Interesting question Paul. However, it strikes me that unless the timings were absolutely simultaneous (which is unlikely) then the player 1 will have hit the shuttle, followed through and hit the net (fault) before the shuttle hit player two. But I am guessing that both players are literally on top of the net? If I were unsure then I would call a let but I think in this case I would call the first fault as per rule 13.4.1 Surprised

December 6, 2013
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BobWebster said:

Hi Roger,
As you stated it hit the shaft then the strings, as opposed the head/strings I'd say it was a clear double hit and a fault. The blokes “fault” call was correct.

I agree with that…have to say that was good of him to call the fault if no one else saw it…not sure many league players would have done that Confused

December 8, 2013
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Yes I agree that on occasion there can be a situation that is so difficult to call in terms of timing that a let is the only answer.

 

Paul

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