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July 16, 2013
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I don't think the response to coaching would be as positive in a club poll as on here. This is a forum of people keen to talk, discuss and learn about badminton, it is natural that everyone will want coaching.

July 16, 2013
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Looking forward to getting my Badminton-Coach Forum Anorak…      Wink

July 19, 2013
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This is almost a preaching to the converted thread because the players that have responded have been or are proactive in improving their game.

 

The difficulty is that there are a bunch of players in every club that would like to improve, like to win more games but they don't want to do something extra to achieve this. It doesn't make sense to me, although sums up a huge chunk of attitude that's prevalent in society today. Give it me now, give it me for nothing.

 

Personally I feel some people have lost their way and attitude which has changed due to the increasing technology in our world but that's for another time.

 

At the end of the day, those players that are driven will do whatever in takes within their means to achieve their goals. Depending on their aspirations they will either push to reach division one status, or reach a level they are happy with and forever be content. The sad part about this is that practice and coaching in simple areas such as serving and return of serve will generally yield amazing results instantly. Are players happy when they win more games? Of course they are! Will they practice these simple tasks? Most won't. Where's the logic?

 

Paul

July 19, 2013
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I agree with those comments, Paul. For a long while I have been amazed at the lack of coaching interest at various clubs I've played league at (Bucks, Berks, Beds, Herts, Kent – I've moved around a bit!). The strange thing is, I've heard individuals complain that they can't do this or that on court but take no action to improve their play. People do just want to turn up and play games.

 

I've only ever had one playing partner who was as keen as me to do practices, repetitions, etc. I wouldn't criticise anyone who just wants games on club night but I do feel they're missing out. I have witnessed two sessions of group coaching in recent years at a league club but I have to say that it was largely ineffective with 20 players queuing to play a net kill or smash with little or no guidance or tips. I didn't see it as very effective. The only benefit for some was in coaching positional play in mixed. Overall, the quality of coaching was in question and in this instance I think a smaller group of 4-8 would have been best.

July 22, 2013
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Interesting point on the quality of coaching Dee.

  Being Badminton England registered is no guarantee of the quality of the coaching. It just means that the coach has passed an exam. I liken it to the driving test. Only after you pass do you really start learning how to drive.

The responsibility of personal career development falls directly on the individual coach with hardly any input from B.E.

This means that if a coach wishes to improve it is up to them to find appropriate workshops and seminars.

Speaking of seminars I attended one over the weekend run by Peter Higman,not only a great coach but a great coach educator.

Pete has, for the last few years, been on a mission around the country to improve the standards of badminton coaching.

He has had to do this without any B.E.support, primarily because they want to control all coaching initiatives and Pete doesn't want, or need, the bureaucratic interference.

I'm not saying that B.E. should fund and support all coaches ideas and philosophies but for them not even to be considered because they fall outside B.Es organisational structure is nothing short of criminal. All power to forward thinking coaches like Peter Higman and Paul Stewart for going it alone and trying to to raise the standards in our great game.        

July 22, 2013
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A very good coach I know, ex commonwealth gold medallist etc, was asked by BE to be a “summer coach” for juniors. Interpretation: we want your coaching knowledge as a consultant, but do not want you as a member of the team. Poor.

A similar approach is taken to players. A very good player I know (who wins gold tournaments and competes in minor international tournaments) plays badminton as a hobby (for a club in Switzerland at present). He did not want to move to Milton Keynes, to do all his training and live there. He was thus cast off by BE. This is perhaps fair? He wasn't following the plan, and in asian countries, not doing this means you get nowhere. However, this player is so talented, it is a shame not to utilise him. He has never lost to Karl Baxter, who used to be England's number 2 mens singles player. A shame such talent is left to waste 🙁 This scenario is slightly different however.

July 22, 2013
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I do find it frustrating that there is little opportunity to educate myself outside of testing, testing and testing, although I have to admit that my biggest breakthroughs have come through this method.

 

I have heard many good things about Pete Higman and must do my best to track him down and get in touch with him.

 

My coaching role model is Brian Roper. Brian was coaching even when he broke his back and was wearing a harness. I haven't seen him for years but I know he's still coaching – bless him!

 

It seems that BE is only interested in using ex-players as coaches as if they have all the answers. I'm not suggesting here I am better or worse than them. After all, they have international experience, I don't. They played at international level, I didn't. But does that mean they are a better coach?

 

Looking at football for a moment, let's take George Best as an example. We all know how good a player he was. However, do you beleive he could have coached what he did on a football pitch? I doubt it. That talent for balance, dribbling and seeing is something that can be coached to a point. The technical skill can be coached but having the vision to see opportunities, mmm that is something else.

 

I considered applying for Level 3 Coach Award two years ago. Whilst I could have completed it I'm really not convinced it would have made me a better coach on court. It may have made me a more organised coach in terms of administration but that's about it.

 

What I'm looking for are real examples of coaching practices, different ways in coaching technique which I may not have thought of as I'm never happy I deliver the perfect lesson, although I always get good results. It seems there are so few coaches available today to be able to learn from and it seems BE is so interested in keeping this knowledge in-house that it forces coaches like me to either look elsewhere (but where?) or do what I've found to work extremely well…tinker away and continually ask questions. I also borrow from other sports.

 

My next objective is to meet a fencing coach and see if I can learn from them in terms of how they train explosive forward movement.

 

I've also linked in with Jacob Hiller and he is writing a program on jumping specifically to improve jump smash in badminton.

 

So much to learn….love it!

 

Paul

July 22, 2013
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Enjoyed your post Paul, that’s why I asked on Badmington England website, when they ask for questions to give to there coaches. Do they go abroad to the top countries to learn new ideas? How much technology do they use.
A mutual friend on Facebook reckons the England players need a higher quality of sparring partners, which I think is a good point. So guess we need to get some overseas players in.
I think your very good at coming up with innovative training tools & ideas Paul.
If I won the lottery think I would do a tour around the world just to see…..I think BE should do this!

July 22, 2013
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Thanks Darren

 

It's a lot of fun to tinker away with players in resoect of testing. I'm fortunate that I only tinker with good players so generally I get to see the results very quickly.

 

Paul

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