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3:33 pm
December 28, 2011
Why is Asian country like china korea india malaysia so dominant in badminton like top 2 of each categories is like asian apart from denmarks mathias boe and carsten mogeson, the korean pair lee yong dae and chung jae sung split up or they will be the first. In men singles top ten is asian. Why is that?
4:18 pm
May 25, 2010
Probably because it is a more popular sport over there and they have better set-up from the grass roots upwards?
Also, they will make better money from the sport, meaning that they may not struggle to pay their bills as much as the Europeans?
I've heard of many English players fall away, as it is hard to get funding in this sport and what funding you do get and prize money you do win (if you are lucky enough) wouldn't really be enough to live a “normal life”.
Badminton on the whole in England, is going down. I don't care if BE keep coming out with “x many players have taken up badminton line”, I am telling you, clubs are folding and badminton isn't that popular. Now BE's funding is cut, it is more likely that less people will be joining (as opposed to when Robertson and Emms were making headlines)
That's just my 2p.
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October 28, 2012
12:32 am
February 15, 2011
Guys this decline has been happening for the last 30 years and I don't expect we will ever return to the “good old days” when clubs and leagues were thriving.
It's such a shame, because the knock on effect of this is the demise of the England team, who were once so dominant.
PLease don't expect us to compete with the Chinese. They have a system that produces world class players at will. They do have schools and it is in these schools that the likes of Lin Dan emerge. But, we have no idea how many casualties there are too, we only see the best. Kids learn one shot until they master it. In comparison, we are attention deficit and always want to move on and learn something else rather than become a master.
We simply cannot compete with sports schools and a culture that is now steeped in badminton, compared to UK where we are more steeped in football. Denmark is the closest country in terms of their ability to produce world class players and that's why they are the best in Europe. They have a culture that elevates badminton to being one of the top sports in their country. Sadly, badminton is somewhere near the bottom in UK.
In a nutshell, we do not have the strength in numbers, or the dedicated schools to give China a run for their money. Instead we're going to have to settle for odd occasion where an english player or pair causes an upset and beats one of the top Chinese, Malaysian, Indonesian or Korean players.
Paul
9:14 pm
December 28, 2011
very true that china does have a lot of badminton schools as well as lots of club, personally i have been at china and they rent out school for badminton in the night and there is no way u get a court by just turning up without a booking unlike UK so i guess so. I think this have something to do with culture as china has been a less economically developed country but not anymore study might not been as important whereas in uk if u dont get qualification u wont earn much. therefore chinese can train gold medal players more than england.
12:54 am
April 14, 2011
Good question. In Asia badminton is a very democratic and popular sport, in the sense that even the smallest village or kampung would typically have a small playing area for badminton, even if it is outdoors. Some fans of the sport even build badminton courts in their back yard (if they have the space) and invite friends over for a game after work. Children go to Primary and Secondary schools where students are encouraged to take up the sport and perform in inter-school competitions, and if they are any good to pursue it as a profession. In other words badminton is “in the blood,” much like football is in Brazil. National players get a lot of Government funding to progress through the ranks and compete in international tournaments. In Malaysia and Indonesia, for instance, some national players also play for private sponsors so there is a healthy ecosystem that promotes competition between Government-sponsored and privately-sponsored players. Training is tough and regimental, and for the top players it’s an all-or-nothing proposition, i.e. you cannot play part-time and keep another job and expect to be successful at the same time.
There is a two-part good documentary by Rob Hardcastle on badminton in Malaysia, which is searchable on Youtube. It will give one a sense of how badminton is deeply entrenched in the (sports) culture of the country from the point of view of a Western observer.
9:14 am
February 15, 2011
It has to be said, there's always been a certain amount of snobbishness surrounding badminton in the UK.
It doesn't seem as bad as it used to be and judging by the way everyone looks to help each other on this forum I think it's safe to exclude everyone here.
But certainly 20-25 years ago, I went out of my way to wear non-whites and was treated with utter contempt by most clubs for my less-than-conformist-non-middle-class attitude.
Most people I played with/against back then had their badminton roots from university and because I never went I was looked down upon.
Fortunately, society in general doesn't work like that anymore but I still regularly come accross clubs with that mentality and it still gives me a perverse kick when I thrash them.
Also, and possibly dodgy ground, the coaching system seems to have no real structure.
In schools it's pretty much non-existant, at university it's extremely good unless you're a complete beginner and when you get to club level there are very few places/people who are willing to take on beginners.
I understand why, but shouldn't the powers that be have some kind of incentive scheme to get coaches to spend a bit of time promoting the sport ?
5:26 pm
April 15, 2010
Some really interesting points there Simon and ones I can relate to, nothing bugs me more than a club that states beginners welcome and then when one turns up you see them ignored by players who only want 'good games'.
At my regular club we are struggling for members, it seems difficult to get people to try the sport in the first place, but equally difficult to get social players to move to playing in clubs. I see loads of people playing on courts they've booked themselves but shy away from turning up to a club night. This idea of the snobbish attitude may be the reason.
It would be interesting to hear from people in similar positions on how they have tried to get new members to a club, or the reasons they feel people won't move from a social standard to club and league.
10:28 pm
February 15, 2011
I've seen this so often.
Badminton Clubs needs to be found on the web. If you really want to see a good badminton club on the web then check out Forrest Badminton Club in Bolton. They have made their site a true community space and i think it's brilliant.
The other side of attracting more players is to ensure you have a good welcoming committee. You have to sacrifice a lot to attract players and show that you care for them. Sadly this doesn't happen in many clubs.
A few years ago I visited my childminders club. I was unknown in the area and hadn't developed my website then so nobody knew who I was, which suited me. It took almost three weeks before anyone really bothered to speak to me. However, when I had been on court, the situation changed completely. It shouldn't be that way.
I know one player/coach who regularly visits the local sports centre and hands out invitations to players to visit the club. This and the website do a lot for their numbers.
When I moved into the area i looked for badminton clubs on the web and struggled to find any information. Because of this i didn't bother for some time. You have to use the web and make your club appealing if you are to attract new players to your club.
Somebody also needs to put time aside to coach the new players which will then help their integration. Without this, saldy you are fighting a losing battle.
With regard to Simon's comments in clothing. What I see now in badminton clubs can be pretty appalling. Players wearing running shorts and vests playing in matches. Clearly standards of dress have slipped tremendously considering the kit you can buy from places like Primark, albeit non badminton names but very smart.
Paul
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