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4:18 pm
January 7, 2015
As my games improved, my confidence and desire to play cross court at the net as increased (doubles). However, I’m keen to know when people think this is a beneficial thing to do be doing and when it can be a hindrance to a doubles game?
I realise the obvious answer here is to play the shot when there’s space on the cross but I’m thinking more tactically when everyone’s where they should be on court.
I’ve noticed in professional leagues that cross court net shots are pretty rare within Men’s doubles, almost non existent in Ladies doubles (which surprises me) and much more prevalent in Mixed doubles. Any clues?
11:01 am
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August 12, 2010
Well now. Interesting question… when to play it, and why isn’t it played at a professional level very often?
There are some occasions where the cross net shot is the only valid choice e.g. shuttle is very low and close to the net, but lets leave those alone for now.
The cross court net shot is good for some things and bad for others. If played fast (because it was taken early) and travels almost parallel to the net then its basically a winner. No real disadvantages. However, this should not occur very often at a high level – taking the shuttle that early means that the shuttle was probably played slow and tight to the net – something that doesn’t happen often. If you were that close to the net in order to take the shuttle that early, then at a slightly higher level you should have played a net kill.
At a professional level, they don’t piss about with cross court net shots – they are looking for any opportunity to kill the shuttle and control the forecourt – hitting cross court net shots CAN work, but the best frontcourt players use them very sparingly and its almost always a winner because they have waited for the opponent to be out of position first. For the purpose of control, you want shuttles to come back to you (so you can continue to boss the rally) – hitting a cross court net shot moves the shuttle away from you – the opposite of controlling the net.
So given that when taken REALLY early its a very good shot (as would most other net shots have been), what about when its not taken so early? Against most opponents, they won’t be able to change direction and retrieve the shot – so thats good. But if you do pull off the shot and the opponent gets to it, you are probably not fast enough to get to the other side of the net to cover the net properly, and they can do a lot of damage by playing a straight push or drive – putting you on defence. So the cross court net shot actually puts you and your partner quite badly out of position – not a problem if the shots a winner, but really bad if its not.
Furthermore, against a good opponent, the cross net shot can be quite easily killed off the top of the tape. As such by playing the cross net shot, you risk your opponent killing the shot, or putting yourself out of position. The alternative was to play a straight net shot, and then try to kill the next shot yourself – a far more risk averse strategy if you have the net skills to attack the net properly.
I hope you found my analysis helpful. I use cross net shots a lot at a high level, because I am fast into the net, have a good cross court net shot but am not otherwise a very good net player – I am trying to beat my opponents with speed and finesse, rather than controlling the net “properly”. Against some opponents, these tactics work really well, and against other opponents, I get royally humiliated. In those situations, I need to be much more careful, and play less risky shots and try to improve my net game.
2:16 pm
January 7, 2015
Thanks Matt,
Good point about the professional level absence of cross courting, they are looking to kill wherever possible and cross courting is risky against excellent net players. There were a few exception’s to this in the recent English National Championships where the Men’s final was full of them which was really different to see. Quite a few points won on it as well, more through the element of surprise than anything I think. Have watch if you haven’t already:-
I think you’re right that fast cross courts are the key, something I’ll go away and practise I think. It sort of has to be an outright winner to consistently effective with the positional disadvantages as you pointed out.
4:25 pm
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August 12, 2010
Hate to be negative, but these mens players are a long long way from being top class professionals. If you were to pitch them against the top indonesian or korean pairs, they would be thrashed and in part its because of the ruthless nature of those top class competitive players – they are hunting every shuttle create a lot of pressure.
An interesting point about pressure in doubles: something I remember from an interview a long time ago. Back in 2005 (or 2006?) Anthony Clarke and his partner Robert Blair reached the mens doubles world championship finals – so they played really really well to reach the final of the years most prestigious tournament. In the final, they played against the top chinese pair Fu Haifeng and Cai Yun. The English pair were beaten with a scoreline something like 21-8 21-9 – an absolute thrashing. Once they came off the court, the English pair said, in an interview (and I will have got the specifics wrong, but you get the idea) – the pressure they were put under by the chinese pair was phenomenal, and they wouldn’t feel the same pressure even if they were playing against 10 english opponents on the other side of the net – i.e. there is no way their could replicate that pressure during a training session to match what they experienced from the chinese pair. Pretty phenomenal when you think about it – and it was all down to the power and intensity of the chinese pair (who were, by any standards, one of the best pairs of all time). In those situations, you wouldn’t be able to even consider playing cross court netshots or other such rubbish – you can only try to stick in the rallies!
7:19 am
February 15, 2011
I hadn’t watched this match until today and really enjoyed what I saw.
The question regarding the use or over-use of the cross court net shot has been answered well by Matt.
For me the answer lies in the situation presented on court at any time. If the gap is there and you’re capable of placing the shuttle there quickly then this could be an excellent return.
Interestingly, Robert Blair came along to Lilleshall a few years ago. We were working on cross court net shots at the time. As you can imagine there was a great deal of discussion and the simple answer to this question for doubles play is forget the typical cross court deception that we have learnt and enjoy using. The simple “get the shuttle into the gap quickly” approach was considered the best with no frills.
We see this in the video. There’s the gap, push the shuttle. We don’t see the Peter Gade show me the straight net shot and pull off the cross court type shot here. And that’s right. This approach may work in singles but it’s so rare to see in doubles. The game is too fast and there’s usually a player lurking around the net looking for an opening.
In some respects the cross court net shot is higher risk, depending on the capabilities of all players. This opens up a variety of angled returns. At your level you should be able to handle them but the real question is should you put yourselves into these situations in the first place? Usually the answer would be “no.”
This doesn’t mean you won’t use the shot. What we’re saying is be selective. If you see the gap and get the shuttle into play quickly then this could be an excellent way to open up the game to your advantage.
Paul
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