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Diving!
April 12, 2015
6:25 am
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AlexLaw
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I know diving is not the best thing I can do right now to improve my badminton. While working on my serve is a probably a very important skill to learn, I don’t look sexy by serving well. Which brings me to diving: to retrieve a smash like Lee Chong Wei is something I always wanted to show off (Okay, jump smash was my first, nailed that after a century).
Does anyone know the technique for doing this (safely!?).
I know many world class players don’t dive in MS, so this is a rather interesting move to think about.

April 12, 2015
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Lol.

Whilst I cannot help you with perfect diving technique, I can tell you that watching some slow motions of LCW doing the deed himself. But personally, I think never having to dive is sexier… I find the Son Wan Ho infuriatingly good defence without diving is much more impressive. So… until I am professional, I will not worry about my diving technique!

Good luck!

April 12, 2015
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There are different techniques for diving to the forehand and backhand. Before you consider learning these, you really need to be extremely fit.

Consider this…

Drop flat on the ground and then get up in under a second. Do this consistently for 5 minutes dropping full length and then quickly getting up. Recognise how tiring it is. You need an incredibly strong core, arms and legs to provide the spring you need for recovery

So, rather than learn the technique, learn to recover first, otherwise you’ll look an idiot retrieving the shuttle, only to find you’re not fast enough to return the next shot.

As Matt rightly says, there are players who do not dive for the shuttle so it’s not always necessary in a game.

Aside from that I’m more concerned with your thinking where you are suggesting that’s it’s better to show off than play the best point. The best players in the world achieve this peak through the mastery of basics. Their racket control is extraordinary and i suggest you never lose sight of these facts. I would rather play an opponent who tries to outshine me with flash shots rather than someone who serves well and hits a consistently good length.

Paul

April 13, 2015
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Hi Alex
I hope Paul and Matts answers have persuaded you to practice more fundamental techniques that will improve your overall game.
The professionals only dive as a last resort to hopefully keep the rally going after maybe a short lift.
Remember it takes great racket skill to achieve a good return from a dive.
On a lighter note, if you want to see a world class diver in action, watch a Jürgen Klinsmann video.

Roger

April 13, 2015
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Yes, I have already stated in my first comment diving is not my best thing to improve right now. In fact, it might not even improve me. But heck, improving and mastering the basics isn’t my goal now. I’ve accepted the fact I will never be competitive, and that’s why I don’t care too much.

The main point is for me at least, if you can dive, you have a higher chances of getting ….girls. Well, obviously, the shot has to pass the net, but I’m not asking for extreme accuracy.

I’ve looked at some videos of LCW doing it, and will try to copy it as far as possible-he doesn’t land full body down, so it is not extremely hard to recover. He dives, hits, then uses his two arms to slow down the fall, pushes his other leg outward, then mainly uses the feet to push himself back up.

Son Wan Ho…hmm. @Matt: Watch the first 5 points of Son wan Ho against lee chong wei in the all England Semi Final. Is he still great at defence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsI0-GAZgM

Not persuaded, but thanks for the help!

April 13, 2015
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I watched this match live. The first few points demonstrated LCW’s amazing power and accuracy however he still struggled to win the match.

OK, now we understand your reasoning for wanting to dive. Heck if we all knew that diving and retrieving a shuttle would get us girls, we would have been doing that years ago!

LCW uses a different technique to some. He prefers to dive with an almost “all fours” position which allows for faster recovery. Notice also how he turns his racket leg into the shot so that this helps with stability.

To be honest the best two divers are Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan so why not simply copy their technique. The area to watch are…

1) initial dive
2) racket placement to retrieve the shot
3) position of the body prior to hitting the floor
4) how the racket hand is used to land and still retain the racket
5) speed of recovery

I hope this helps.

Paul

April 14, 2015
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Its funny you should pick that match as your example. I too was there. LCW started brilliantly, before Son Wan Ho ground him down, comfortably winning the first game (even though he lost the first 5 points). Watch his defence in the rest of the game and match – it is excellent. So yes, I would still classify him as a great defender. Including based on all the other countless matches where his defence has frustrated his opposition.

If I could defend like him, I would be a very happy badminton player. Not many people can even get close to LCW, let alone nearly beat him. It was a brilliant match to watch live!

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