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How wide is a base?
November 18, 2010
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Matthew Seeley
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I am of course referring to after performing a split step/split drop/split jump/preload jump/preparation step or whatever you want to call it. Lets have a think… how “wide” should this base be? We should probably work in some reasonable metric that is scalable – i.e. shoulder widths.

 

So, my question is: is there some optimum width we should be aiming at. I don't really want to perform the splits on court, the lower I go though – and hence the wider the base, the harder my legs feel they are working, but the more surprised I am to realise how effectively I am able to cover the court. However, I don't feel able to get backwards as quickly as I would like when it is this low. So – I should either practise more to make moving backwards in this way quicker… OR… is there another answer? Maybe the distance your legs should be from one another should change depending on whether you are “defending” or “attacking”.

 

I would like to open the floor to comments please 😀

 

What do you think? The wider the better? Is there an optimum? Whats the difference between singles and doubles (I believe singles is a more interesting consideration than doubles – it is much tougher to defend the entire court!)?

February 26, 2011
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shoulder width or a bit wider.  you can adjust your height more by knee bend than by distance between your feet

February 27, 2011
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When i watch the professional they seem to drop very low. Amleto i'll check to see if they are just bending their knees a bit more, but i think they have their feet rather spaced – when then are recieving a smash ect.

When i split drop its normally just wider than shoulder but i'm pratising to get it wider and to cover the court quicker even if it means using more energy!

February 27, 2011
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Thanks for the input guys! Hope more people give their opinions too.

 

Shoulders width might be good for defending in doubles, but as m.y. says, most singles players adopt a much wider base.

 

Just wanted to say to m.y. that although initially it may seem like you are using more energy, I imagine that the result, even now, will mean you have to take fewer steps and reach the shuttle earlier than before – meannig you can take the shuttle, earlier, and start to rush your opponent. Ultimately, if playing singles, this will mean fewer rallies in total. So, you put more effort into the movement, but have to move less – you have to work hard, but at the same time, you get a good benefit! Once you master it though, it will be effortless AND you will be so much quicker…

 

For some things to think about, how wide should the base be for:

 

A singles player who is having to defend

A singles player who is having to attack

 

A doubles player who is defending

A doubles player who is playing in the rearcourt

A doubles player who is playing the mid and front court (“the net”)

 

Are they all the same? Or are some of them different? Your thoughts please 😀

 

Matt

February 28, 2011
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A singles player who is having to defend

A very wide base – look at LD he can reach the shuttle with a minimum of one step. When i tried this found it really difficult to reach the shuttle, so i'd guess a lot of leg power is needed. I also remember Matt posting that the denfender should look a bit up at the shuttle – centre of vision, so one can react faster.

 

A singles player who is having to attack

I don't really understand this, is it the moment before hitting a smash or something?

 

A doubles player who is defending

The base can be smaller since you partner and you can over the court. The chinese play with their racket foot in of there non racket foot.

 

A doubles player who is playing in the rearcour

A doubles player who is playing the mid and front court (“the net”)

I think these two depends on what type of shot you want to exercute.

February 28, 2011
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Ah sorry, I realise now I did not fully explain what I meant in the attacking situations!

 

What I mean for singles is, what should a singles player who is waiting for his opponent to play a shot do with regard to his base, when he is wanting to attack the next shot i.e. he is pretty sure he will not have to “defend” after an aggressive shot from his opponent (no guaruntees though!). Should this be any different to a singles player who is defending?

 

With regard to the doubles:

 

For the front court player: imagine you are waiting for your partner in the rearcourt to play an attacking shot (or he just has and you are waiting for your opponent to hit their defensive shot) – do you stand the same as when defending in doubles? Or is it different? If so, how is it different? Presumably it should be lower than usual, but should it just be lower? Or wider? What do you think?

 

For the rear court player, you have just hit a downwards attacking shot (or your partner did) and you are waiting for the next shot to come (either to you or to your partner) – how should you stand? The same as the front court player? Same as a singles player? Same as when defending? Again, what do you think?

 

Hope that clarifies what I was trying to get at!

 

Matt

March 1, 2011
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I've never taken any notice of my base and if I'm honest I don't really understand what anyone's talking about.

Any chance of pictures or links to describe what you mean ?

I'm 40 so I don't think there's that much room for improvement but subtle stuff like this fascinates me.

March 1, 2011
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Oh, well in doubles with my parnet we follow the general guildlines. When the oppoent lifts the shuttle, the one who smashes cover the right hand side as he moves his momentum forward after the smash. The partner is in the front court waiting for a weak return to kill. If the oppoent lifts it over the fornt court player then the back court player tries another smash.

The player in the front splits like in singles i'd think.

 

simon

you could try a few videos on youtube, just watching a game of singles like LD vs LCW and notice how the prepare for an attacking shot.

March 1, 2011
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To simon: the only thing I was trying to draw attention to in this particular topic, was how wide apart you should have your feet when you are WAITING for the opponent to hit the shuttle. We broke this down into different singles and doubles scenarios, because some may be different to others. If you stood with your feet close together, odds are you will not be ready to move anywhere very quickly. However, with your feet a little wider, you have an easier time pushing off in whatever direction you want to go.

 

As an example: A singles player who is expecting his opponent to smash, will probably have a very wide stance: his feet very wide, so that he was the best possible chance of moving quickly sideways to try and get the shuttle before its out of reach.

 

Does that help? Its a subtle affair, and many players do what is natural! But sometimes, what is natural is not as fast as making a little change!

 

Matt

March 1, 2011
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Aah, nice explanation Matt.

I'll watch a friend who plays for England Vets tonight and see how he does it.

All this stuff is really helpful for teaching my kids too, I'm getting more and more desperate to do a proper coaching course.

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