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My review of Lilleshall..... The unexpected outcomes.
September 15, 2011
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Having been lucky enough to attend last weekends training course I thought I would share some of my thoughts, but not in the usual way. I want to share the positives that I wasn't expecting.

Firstly a quick word about the facilities. I found the whole setup to be excellent. The rooms are often described as 'basic', but having recently experienced university accommodation I actually found them to be very good, clean and well maintained. The food provided was very tasty and plentiful, as you need an awful lot to put back the calories you have been burning.

OK, the first unexpected benefit to my play. My 'biggest challenge' was to get a good understanding of how to hit a backhand clear. I duly spent a good hour with Stuart who did a fantastic job explaining the mechanics of the shot and within that short space of time my confidence in the shot grew immensely. So when I walked on court on Tuesday for my first league match of the season I did so with the confidence that I would now be able to cope more effectively with being pushed into the backhand corner.

And I certainly did cope much better, because of my footwork. A big part of the first mornings coaching was footwork into both rear corners and moving with the commitment to play a meaningful shot when you get there. I quite simply didn't need to hit a backhand clear all night. Job done.

The second surprise was in the 'smash clinic'. I expected a good discussion and breakdown of the shot, concentrating on technique and hitting cleanly and so on. What I remember of the coaching is this:

Paul checked the forehand grip was correct, told us to get in position and 'think big', then belt it with real conviction and emotional content. I thought 'Is that it?', and I think that was the beauty of the coaching. My mind was clear to hit the shuttle really hard, and I am doing!

Now I'm sure there was more to the coaching than I just described, but it was the simplicity that was unexpected and I think that perfectly demonstrates why a course like this is so vital for a player looking to improve like me. It's not necessarily the areas I think need improving that need the work, and it doesn't always require a complicated solution.

The final thing I noticed having had time to reflect, is that what Paul talks about here on the forum, he really transfers into his training on court. The aim is to play better in order to win more games. It was easy to see in every session how the work would transfer into winning points, even in the defense training. The whole idea was to hit back positively and look to drive the shuttle back to counter attack.

Overall the coaching was excellent, informative and most importantly great fun. All four coaches were great to work with and had loads of time for you. They also push you hard, I always felt I had plenty to keep working on at a later time, which is important when you only get to see your coach for a weekend.

So as I hope you can tell I had a great time, which leaves one final unexpected outcome that I really should have seen coming. The pain. There was a huge amount of court time and I was a wreck Sunday evening / Monday morning. It was in a good cause though. Laugh

September 16, 2011
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I hope you did some of those stretches you were shown! 🙂

September 16, 2011
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Rob
 
Many thanks for your comments. I’m absolutely delighted that you get the whole ethos behind the course. Sometimes I wonder whether our approach is too subtle, bearing in mind it’s so staring you in the face.
 
When I do a smash clinic players expect me to break down every component of the shot into minute detail and then coach each element until you’re all hitting so much harder. The truth is I would need 4-7 weeks to do that and be able to show a significant difference. What I did was take the big chunks, as I could see from your technique that this would have the greatest impact. Also, I covered elements that nobody seems to cover and that is the emotional commitment to the shot.
 
We all know that when we commit to doing something rather than say “I’ll try,” the job itself gets done so much faster and so much better. So why shouldn’t that apply to badminton? When players get nervous, lose confidence or are getting tired, the key element that is mssing is the emotional commitment to the shot. This is really what “staying focussed” is all about and yet I’ve NEVER seen this mentioned anywhere – even on my blog.
 
I thought the course in September was the right time to unleash this little gem because it’s also the first time I have taken the advanced group on the first morning.
 
I’m really happy that you’ve got what we were teaching and already finding results in your game. There will be  more to come. I really wanted to take the advanced group for the net section as it’s the one area of the court I’m fanatical about. But I had to spread my time across both groups as equally as I could.
 
If you apply the tactical thinking too, your game is going to take off!
 
As I wrote on Facebook earlier this week, attendees on my courses have no idea how much the course means to me. I really do put my heart and soul into it, hence why I always break down in my final address. It’s hard to describe the number of transformations I see in the weekend on all levels and it really get’s to me. I can’t help it and this Lilleshall I was worse than ever! I make no apologies for it because it’s just who I am and really sums up everything that is behind my blog and the courses.
 
I still want to do more and will be working with players to test my thoughts and theories going forward. Since I really got into testing I have introduced the return of serve section in a completely different way, net clincs, smash clinic and a range of other subtle differences that advanced players like you have taken away and used to great effect.
 
At the moment you may not notice a big difference in your service return. But, please stick at it. Your wider stance with legs loaded (remember that part) will give you more speed and power. Your hand position will give you more options in placing the shuttle. If you had seen a picture of yourself before we did the adjustments then you would have agreed with the comments and made the changes. Perhaps that’s something for us to consider adding next time. You can always chat to me about that again if you need to.
 
Overall, I’m delighted with your first night on court and I wish you even more discoveries and success over the season. I do hope you will continue to share them with us as you have here.
 
What can I say about sore and achy limbs?
 
Paul 

September 16, 2011
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I certainly have been stretching Matt. I am also much more aware of what I'm trying to achieve with the warm up and knock prior to a match.

The return of serve was one of the most interesting sections to the course Paul, and I think the one that will take longest to change in my game. I think this is only due to the sheer number of little things that need to change.

I am currently looking to widen my stance and get my legs out of line with each other. This automatically forces me to load my legs, so I don't need to think about that too much at this time. My court position varies depending on the server anyway so I am currently ignoring that and concentrating on moving in a balanced and quick way from my adjusted stance. As I feel more confident I will widen the stance and load the legs further.

I'm yet to hit anyone with your deceptive backhand drive but I'm confident I'll get there. I agree with everything you pointed out, it's just a case of training my body and mind to adjust to the difference. Definitely something I will look to report back on in a month or so.

September 17, 2011
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Rob
 
I’m looking forward to reading your future posts on this subject.
 
The good thing is a number of improvements have already been made. The quicker you integrate these news skills into your game the easier the game becomes. Hopefully it won’t be long before players at your club notice the difference and comment on your excellent play.
 
Paul

September 19, 2011
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Rob, you have written nearly EXACTLY what I would have written after I went to the previous course. In fact, it was something I planned on doing, but being so shattered afterwards and lack of time, meant it never happened! Was well worth it and would love to do it again. I have already made some notes from this thread as my biggest disappointment from the course was my lack of notes. Or in my case, none. I had set out to do some notes but, well, it never happened.

 

Out of interest Rob, did you make some notes? If so, would you let me have a copy of your notes? Don't worry if you think they won't make sense to me, I will probably work it all out anyway as I have been on the course myself, but I feel like I don't remember anything but the information is in my head somewhere, just need a reminder to find it! I would be happy to give you something for your troubles, and I would be happy to have them in any form (email, post, fax).

 

If anyone else has notes that they have made from one of Paul's coaching courses that they would let me have a copy of, then please do let me know, much appreciated.

 

Paul, stop feeling guility that you don't get to spend enough time with anyone! Laugh If anything, all the coaches there have been coached by you at some point, so they are like “mini Paul's” if you like Laugh And you do a very good job and floating from each “section” of people and the fact that you have so many things on the go is no mean feat. You do a grand job Cool

 

At the moment, the only thing that I have applied to my game is the low return serves, but it does really work. The rest I have trouble remembering, it was such a great weekend it almost turned into a blur! Cool

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September 19, 2011
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Peter
 
Let me know what you want information on and I will personally write your notes. Bear in mind I wrote the course so I know the outline from the first hit of the shuttle.
 
Thanks for your comments Peter. I can’t help the fact that I am so driven to deliver to a high standard and constantly see areas where we can improve. I think I need another coach and then I can relax more!
 
Paul

September 19, 2011
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That is very kind of you Paul, are you sure you have enough time to do this? I would be extremely grateful as I know how busy you are.

 

I think your course improves each time you do one. I can't remember where I read it but I am sure you said you were taking out the net competition but is a really good idea. Whilst I think the competition was a good idea in the first place and offers a bit of a break and something different, seeing what you have replaced the time with is even better.

 

Having attended the course, I can understand everything you are writing from (your view point), and it is pretty much a crash course in the fact it is jam packed with information but not even going into great deatil on everything. It's great, everyone REALLY does leave with a new “tool” (as you like to call it Laugh) from every course. I can see in a few years time, the course will be so big, you will have to hire the WHOLE of Lilleshall! Wink Laugh

 

Would you like me to PM you or email you regarding the tips and tricks Paul?

Thanks again! Cool

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September 19, 2011
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I did make notes Peter, I think the act of writing them helped me remember more anyway as I would have to take a minute to consider what I had just done.

I think you have a substantially better offer from Paul there rather than my ramblings. To be honest I'm not worried you won't understand them, more that they won't be relevant to you. They are specifically written as pointers for me to remember when going back over the shots, to guide my mind in the right direction at a later date. There's a fair chance they address things you don't need to consider, but possibly miss out the things you do.

Having said that, if you want to PM me your email address I'll send you a photo of them if you like, it's only an A4 page in total. Smile

September 19, 2011
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Peter
 
I will email you as it’s easier. Please give me a week to get my notes together as I have to go over the course outline first and then write about what I know I taught. With Ian’s bits I will write about the key things I think about in these areas.
 
For this Lilleshall it was the first time I took the advanced group on Saturday morning to cover footwork into the corners. I must confess it was hilarious seeing the players faces when I first produced tennis balls to work with! But, they did the job.
 
If there are key points you want me to go over from the sessions you did with me then feel free to ask.
 
Paul
PS Thanks Rob for the offer of help – it’s very much appreciated.

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