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Para-Badminton
March 4, 2014
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Peter Warman
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I have started this thread from the welcome of OwenK90 to the forum and Paul's comments that he would like to ask OwenK90 questions etc. So I thought it would be great to start this as it's own thread and I have put it under the Advanced section of the forum as OwenK90 is in the England set up! Cool

 

After you reading your introduction the other day, my mind has been full of questions! So I'll be the brave one and hopefully everyone else will begin to join in! Wink

 

My first question is, is it difficult to play singles with a full court in terms of getting to shots in time? I ask this as I have watched a little bit of wheelchair tennis but they have the luxury of the ball hitting the floor before they hit it back, but you won't have this in badminton (and badminton is the worlds fastest racket sport!). If player A hit a clear from the right back of the court to the back of player B's side, and player B then drop shot to the left side of the net, how easy it for you to get there in time to hit it back? 

 

I know this might sound like a daft question, but some of us struggle to get this shot back without getting back quickly and leaning forward, how easy is it for you to move as quickly? I think the problem that I have here is that I'm trying to put myself in a wheelchair to see it from your perspective but having never sat in one before, I can only imagine my start up would be rather slow!! Laugh

 

Hmmm, I was going to ask more questions but I'm finding it hard to find the right words without looking a right so and so, so I'll just ask the one question for now.

 

But would love an insight from you. From the YouTube clip I found, it looks just as fun to play and will hopefully be a Paralympic sport by 2020, if not before 

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March 6, 2014
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News Just In:

 

Nick Hope

BBC Olympic sports reporter

Para-badminton & para-taekwondo have made it through to the final shortlist for inclusion in the Tokyo 2020 Games.

A final decision on whether either or both of the sports are included will be made in October. There are currently 22 Paralympic summer sports, with para-canoeing and para-triathlon joining the line-up for the first time in Rio 2016.

The ones to miss out for 2020 are: powerchair football, 3-on-3 intellectually impaired basketball, electric wheelchair hockey, amputee football, one person multi-hull sailing, blind match racing sailing and 3-on-3 wheelchair basketball.

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March 7, 2014
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Hi Peter

Well for Wheelchair Badminton, singles is only played on half court. The area around the net is always out for wheelchair also, so all shots must either land on or beyond the service line. Doubles is full court with again the exception of the net area.

Personally I'd like to see the net area opened up for us as that was really just a rule adapted for wheelchair badminton around 20+ years ago. Nowadays the standard is getting better and better, wheelchairs are getting lighter and players getting faster. I also play quite regularly vs able-bodied players for extra practice and always play the standard rules, I love a good net shot and net kill 😉

 

Yes the initial push/start is always the most difficult bit. I would say just like mainstream Badminton you need to be explosive off the mark and always have your feet/wheels moving!

 

I will post a video shortly after it is finished uploading to youtube of the wheelchair (WH2) mens singles final from the World Championships back in November.

To confuse things even more, aha, WH2 is one of the two wheelchair classifications, the other WH1 and based on a persons disability they are classified into one of these.

To put it simply WH1 is for players with limited or no core control or function, so they pretty much play completely with their arms. Those in WH2 have greater if not full use of their core and generally more agile, able to put their core strength into their shots and movement.

There are 4 more classifications in Para-Badminton though; Standing categories such as Standing Lower 3 (SL3) and Standing Lower 4 (SL4), those with impairments of the leg that stem from above the knee go in to SL3 and those with below knee impairments into SL4, Standing Upper 5 (SU5) this is for those with impairments in one of their arms, and finally Short Stature 6 (SS6) for those of short stature

 

Thats the general basis of it but it does go a little deeper than that but there are highly qualified people such as doctors, physios etc that extensively examine and classify players.

 

Sorry for the mini essay!

March 7, 2014
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Video as promised: 2013 Para-Badminton World Championships WH2 Mens Singles final between Kim Jung Jun of Korea against his compatriot Kim Kyung Hoon also of Korea.

March 7, 2014
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Great write up Owen!

 

Very informative post and interesting read. Thanks for taking the time to write it. Even though my knowledge is limited, I would hazard a guess that you are right about opening up the area between the net and the serving line now that technology and know how is much better now than years ago. Maybe one of the reasons that they've yet to change this is because I'm guessing that for wheelchair users it is a major rule change. Much like changing the scoring from 15 to 21. So I guess extensive testing and trialling needs to be done before they change anything (which can take awhile!). Maybe they will push this forward more if Para-Badminton is selected for the 2020 Paralympics?

 

The video is very interesting to watch, and I'm sure will watch it with great interest (from a coaching point of view). Call me eagle eyed, but even though I've never met you but is that not you that goes next to the empire 30 seconds into the video? Laugh

 

Good luck at the All Englands, knock 'em dead! Smile

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March 8, 2014
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You are probably right there, it would a big change and a lot of players would most likely be reluctant towards it too.

Yup that’s me good spot!

On the way to Birmingham now feeling excited!

March 12, 2014
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Owen

 

I looked out for you at All Englands but didn't see you. I found Martin and had a chat with him – lovely guy.

 

Peter's done the hard job and broken the ice which is fantastic. I have questions…

 

1) Generally what are the key difficulties when forming new partnerships in doubles? Who decides on partnerships for England and what are these decisions based on?

 

2) What is your great shot challenge as a player

 

3) who are the most difficult players to beat and why?

 

4) What's been the highlight of your career so far?

 

I could go on because I want to find out more about your training but we can leave that until next time.

 

Paul

March 13, 2014
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Hi Paul

 

I was going back and forth throughout the weekend between watching the play and the EBAD stand so I was probably hard to spot – though I'm sure we shall meet one day in the future.

 

To answer your questions:

 

1) Quite the perfectly timed moment to ask this question as due to rule changes that just recently came in we are in the process of switching up doubles combinations, mainly regarding certain classifications that can no longer play together (e.g. WH2 + WH2 can not pair up but a WH1 + WH2, or WH1 + WH1 can). Our Para-Badminton Head Coach, Richard Morris, has asked us our opinions and thoughts on possible pairings. He does things quite democratically and likes to listen to player input. It will ultimately come down to Richards decision on what he feels the best combinations will be to be in podium positions but he will certainly take our thoughts into account.

 

2) My great shot challenge – Do you mean the most challenging shot to execute or to return? A killer shot in wheelchair Badminton is being able to come in towards the forecourt early and drive it down the line aiming for the corner. That's definitely a shot I struggle to return. 

Also as simple as it may sound clearing from back to back is another problem for me. When I'm in the correct position I find it no problem. I have a condition in my left elbow and I can only extend it to about a 90 degree angle and this has an affect on my movement but more so moving backwards. Moving forward I feel I'm as quick as anyone and is my strength but moving backwards I would say I am slower than most, and I'm sure you'll agree not being able to be in the right position will have a big negative effect on shot execution. I've done quite well to get where I am considering this though, I would say I read and anticipate the game well to make up for it though I'm currently trying to find ways to make myself quicker going backwards as I'm sure it would help my game tremendously, my coach has a lot of emphasis on 'getting behind the shuttle'.

 

3) The most difficult players to beat are definitely the Koreans, they dominate the wheelchair events. They keep things quite simple and are extremely consistent and seem to rarely make a mistake. They are extremely fit and have the greatest speed and control of the chair out of all wheelchair players. A good combination of speed, power and consistency. I would definitely says its their movement and consistency that makes them the best.

 

4) The highlight of my career would have to be doing a clean sweep of titles in the 4 Nations Para-Badminton Championships in 2010, winning the singles, doubles and mixed doubles. After that I would say reaching the quarter finals of the European Para-Badminton Championships in 2012 in mens doubles is another highlight.

March 15, 2014
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Owen

 

Many thanks for your answers – very interesting.

 

Yes, we'll make sure we catch up in Birmingham next year. Our apartment is only across the road from NIA so perhaps we'll have a cuppa in the stringers room.

 

I have lots more questions but I'll allow other forum members to fire some at you before I ask again.

 

Paul

March 22, 2014
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Was just watching the latest Badminton Unlimited episode and our exhibition match at the All-England pops up at 21:55!

 

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