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The most important skill: Movement
September 14, 2010
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Matthew Seeley
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So very true! Funnily enough, because I get tired, after I have been playing singles for three or four hours, I tend to be moving more efficiently than i was at the beginning. At the beginning, I relied a bit on strength to move about, whereas after you are exhausted, your body really relaxes, stops trying, and the motions become so effortless, relying on balance and technique rather than strength!

 

I hope some other people will tell us some things about there movement! I want to know if any doubles players out there have a preferred corner or movement drill? Perhaps with ones partner? Moving as a pair – its perhaps tactics, but its STILL movement training!

September 16, 2010
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Yep, great stuff this thread. In doubles, when my partner is serving, I'm currently trying to improve my round the head smash (I'm right handed). So the left back end of the court. Backhand clear and cross drop are rather okay, so now it was time for something else. I think I can see all those MD/WD players standing behind the person serving with both feet aligned. I tend to stand with my left foot in front of me, racket foot to the back (like the person receiving the serve considering a right handed person). Don't know why but it feels uncomfortable having my feet next to eachother. Look at Kido when Setiawan serves, Fu when Cai serves, …. Is that the reason why I have difficulty getting there and preparing for the shot in time ?

Indeed, the deep forehand corner I struggled with for a long time, but I took notice of it while playing, and right now all of the above mentioned is going rather okay now. Though there's still room for improvement, otherwise I would be in the list that follows Laugh

I couldn't agree more with the almighty list of fantastic players. Smooth moving: TH by far (saw him in Paris SF & Finals). But speed, yeah LCW, LD, PG and just maybe I would like to add one : Xia Xuanze. Watch his matches on the tube (only a few of them available, and he (had to) end(ed) his career way too soon), firework from the very first second. What a great player he was.

Cheers Ed

September 16, 2010
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Great post Ed 🙂

 

Yeah, Xia Xuanze was a terrific mover. I have recently started watching a bit of Poul-Erik Hoyer Larsen: What a cracking player he was! He moved like a dream 🙂 Wasn't so impressed by Rashid Sideks movement – it didn't look so “fluid”.

 

I understand completely regarding having both feet side by side. I feel this is very good for going sideways, but gives nothing to help move forewards and backwards, which you would certainly need for getting to your round the head smash. However, I can't help but feel having your left foot forwards is a good idea for when your partner is serving. Although serving seems like an attacking situation where there is a chance your opponent will lift the shuttle from a good serve, I actually prefer to treat serving as defensive or “unsure” who is attacking. After a serve, there tends to be a lot of uncertainty as to whether you are attacking or defending, a good return means you're defending, a poor return or a good serve can mean you are attacking. Although you must always strive to attack, you must also make sure no area of the court is exposed! Therefore, i would chose a defensive stance when my partner serves, because I have a lot of court to cover (potentially).

Because of this, I think having your right foot forwards may actually be beneficial. This should make moving round the head easier than it currently is, and is perhaps more comfortable than having both feet level. Having your left foot behind you, should make your first few steps more effective in getting towards your round the head corner. Your left foot (around which you will probably pivot to become side on before you hit) is closer to that corner and thus you are effectively one step closer to that corner, even though you are standing in the same place. Perhaps this will make you one step further away from your forehand corner? I don't know. Thats why my forehand deep corner IS my hardest one, right foot forwards gives help for getting to that corner than the others. However, I can reach further and hit harder with my forehand side, so maybe I can get away with it? (Ideally I just become really really really fast EVERYWHERE right? 😛 )

 

I would love to hear if you try out using your right foot forwards (your racket foot) and how that feels/goes/helps/hinders etc 🙂

 

Thanks again for posting 🙂

 

Matt

 

p.s. I saw Taufik at the all england… I agree he is beautiful to watch movement wise!

September 24, 2010
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Hi Matt,
I've tried the aligned footwork when my partner is serving. At this time, it doesn't feel ike it gives me advantage for reaching the back left corner of the court, and indeed the first times it felt I was not ready to receive the service reply. But I did manage to win my club matches. I'll keep on trying just to see where it benefits me. THX for the tip !
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September 24, 2010
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Ed! Glad to hear back again on your progress. What you must understand is that I always (except when I am receiving serve) use a right foot forwards stance, so I am extremely used to moving in this way. It always takes time. I must see about setting up some sort of video recordings of movement patterns so that people can see them in action! Anyway! Keep at it and let us know how you go!

September 24, 2010
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If you watch a lot of doubles you'll notice that most pairs prefer to stand racquet foot ahead although not side on. This does give a bit more bounce into your movement pattern.

I'm about to write my next two videos which will be on movement. This is a huge subject and one I'll need to return to as there's no way I can cover it in 2 videos, especially more advanced areas that I wish to work on.

The deep forehand side is usally the weakest side for most players. I consider this is because we learn to move around our backhand however, nobody thinks to teach the deep forehand corner. Because of this I see more players with problems hitting from this corner.

I also think there's a complete lack of teaching movement for doubles. It seems that there's a bundle of information about movement patterns in general, but why is it that doubles movement is not discussed? What about specific movement patterns when you're on the attack or defending? What about patterns required to turn defence into attack? What about recovery patterns from a jump smash or deep forehand corner?

Why is it nobody discusses the critical role the hips play in movement and recovery? And what about critical foot movements to avoid injury? I didn't think about this until I watched a video of a player snapping his achilles on my training weekend. Nothing I could have done about it, but having watched the video, foot placement has rapidly shot up my list of priorities.  

As you can tell, it amazes me that all of these subjects have not been discussed in any detail so far. These are subjects I will definately be covering in my videos although they will be later in the program once I have covered one or two basic areas first.

Paul 

September 25, 2010
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Its so very true paul! Nobody talks about specific doubles movements.

 

And it always pains me to hear about an injured Achilles… I hope this makes people ever more vigilant to learn correct hip/knee/foot alignment and correct lunging technique, as well as the correct foot placement when landing form a scissor kick or jump smash to relieve the stress from this fragile area!

 

I look forward to hearing what you have to say regarding movement, and to hearing other people tell us about their strengths and weaknesses when moving!

 

Matt

September 26, 2010
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Had a coaching session today with a player I'd not seen before.

One of the key things we did with her was change her hip alignment when moving backwards. What a massive difference in the speed and efficiency of her movement. Suddenly she could move well to the shuttle and hit so strong.

I was told by her father that other coaches weren't happy with her overhead and hitting through the shuttle. And yet, when we aligned her movement she hit through the shuttle beautifully. Also, when moving backwards, she could stop really fast and hit the shuttle with her weight coming forwards. It really wasn't that difficult.

We also looked at her lunge. Lo and behold, same problem with her hips. Changed that and suddenly she came into the net so much more easily, took the shuttle earlier and played significantly better net shots.

Whether you're playing sport, or winning in business or being successful at something, there is always a sequence to success. Think of being successful (e.g. hitting a good backhand) as a series of numbers that make up a telephone number. Only when you get the sequence right will you be able to consistently connect to the right person.

Sport is the same. When you place all the skills in the right sequence, you will enevitably get a consistent result. Change the sequence and it all goes wrong.

So skill development should be about learning what the sequence is and then focussing on each element until you're proficient. After that, you need to master each element in order to become a top player.

Paul

September 26, 2010
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I can't wait to see your videos on Movement! That is a fantastic coaching result and she must be extremely pleased, and growing in confidence. A slight change in the movement skills – in this case correcting the “posture” of the shot, led to radical improvements! A lesson for us all!

September 8, 2013
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this old topic is still incredibly relevant and informative!

 

I want to make some improvement in a systematic way, so I did a skill audit of myself and found that movement is one area that I need badly improvement. Somehow my movement is very inefficient, so during the game I move often a lot more than my opponent and then get tired very quickly. Some of the points I find relevant:

 

– my recovery is poor. After hitting the shuttle it takes a lot of time for me to my base position. Somehow I didn't “get” the habit to treat recovery as important as get to the hitting position.

– I lack the “internal clock” some people here talk about.

– I never practiced footwork properly, just read/watch and then try to apply tit o the game, which is not efficient.

 

Therefore I would like to start a regular footwork training, perhaps 20-30min every time I go to the club, probably with the music by Gipsy Kings. Matthew's patterns seem a great starting point. Another source I find useful are the videos by Jimmy Lin: http://www.youtube.com/user/th…..jym/videos. Beside that, I would like to run at least once per week for 30min to get some more duration.

 

Your comments are much welcome and appreciated.

 

Tony

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