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September 23, 2010
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Matthew Seeley
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So, its tournament time! The new season has started and let the tournaments begin! My first tournament is on Saturday. Its a one day tournament called the Kent Restricted, as it is only available to players who are “eligible” to play for kent.

 

What I want to know, is what techniques do people use when preparing for a tournament? Does anyone have any tournaments coming up/ just gone?

 

I had a checklist of things I wanted to improve:

Footwork:

rearcourt footwork

forecourt footwork

(simply revising them so they were “natural”)

 

some new shots I needed to learn:

Recovering from a deep and defensive backhand or forehand position using a drive, block or clear + revoery to base (useful for when things get out of hand and you need to stay in the rally).

 

Some old shots I needed to practice:

I wanted to practice my drop shot, make sure I was taking it nice and high

I wanted to work on the accuracy of my smash (and general overhead accuracy)

My mens doubles serve – must be perfect every time

 

What other preparation could I do? I managed to complete all the above to an adequate standard (given I only had 2 weeks to train). I have played against a variety of opponents, some incredibly good, making me play at a very very high tempo, others not so good, allowing me to work on my shots and footwork.

 

Can anyone offer any advice? I will be playing mens singles and mens doubles – i have never met my partner. My opposition should all be county players – i.e. pretty good.

 

All comments welcome 🙂

 

p.s. its a knockout tournament :s

September 24, 2010
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Hi Matt

Only one item I can advise you, but wether it is proffesional todo so, maybe Paul can judge that. Its your MD/XD serve. I always serve backhand, I think it gives you more control over the shuttle. Mostly short, but when I'm well ahead in the points, I do flickserves too. I used a small bucket to train my serve, and did this about every evening for about a week in my living room (to the delight of my
wife). Make sure the shuttle nearly touches the net. Try to hide your intention so your opponent doesn't see what your serve will be, or will go to : short, flick, left / right front corner, the “T”, straight to the body, backhand back line,…
Real preperation for tournaments, when I have to play late in the afternoon or so, I do a bit of running (like 1/2h) before going to the tournament, because once in the arena, you hardly have space to well warm up your legs. Before I go on court, a bit of the well known “Stewart”-armchair excersices Smile, and that's about it. I also try not to eat too heavy before the tournament, but I always have some cookies and (besides lots of water) some Aquarius or equivalent with me. For the sugars.

If anybody has tips, would be interresting !

Succes ! ED

September 24, 2010
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Thanks Ed 🙂 I like you spent hours and hours training my serve. I used to get the serving jitters in mens doubles reverting to nervous flick serves whenever there was some pressure on me. Now however, I have an almost perfect low mens doubles serve. I use wide and straight flicks early on in the match to stop people moving in too close, and then occasionally throw in a drive serve 😛 I feel your advice on serving practice is fantastic for tournament preparation. Mr Stewart once said “which is the most important shot?” and the serve was the answer!

p.s. i only serve backhand in md, but use forehand and backhand in both mixed and singles, just to keep em guessing 😛

 

Unfortunately I don't know if I am capable of getting up to run for half an hour, given that the tournament starts at 9am and I have a 40 min drive to get there, so I will be too asleep to go running!

 

Thanks for your advice! I only eat salad during the tournament, but before or during a long break will be brown pasta!

 

Will let you all know how it goes tomorrow!

September 24, 2010
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Matthew

Good luck in your tournament.

Whilst it's a bit late to be offering suggestions, here's a few things I believe are worth working on…

1) practice against a left handed player. This allows you to get used to the angles they can hit from their deep forehand side (a right handers backhand). Also, you can learn the angles to exploit on serve, especially flick serve.

2) coming into the net from mid court and playing a tight spin net shot  – a builder shot as I like to call it. Peter Gade is a master at this and uses these kind of shots to build his attack.

3) both attacking and defensive clears, especially attacking clears against players of different heights.

4) fast hands drills for doubles in the net area.

5) attack V defence rallies 2 v 1, 3 v 1.

6) net kills with a racquet cover on – very tiring.

7) eye training skills so you see the shuttle that little bit faster in the game.

Hope these help.

Paul

September 24, 2010
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Hi Paul, a beginners question perhaps : what's an attacking clear ? I always considered the clear as a defensive shot.

THX in advance !

ED

September 24, 2010
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Ed

Attacking clear is a fast clear played just above outstretched racquet height of your opponent taking into consideration a jump.

It's a great attacking shot when you're playing a slower player or you've caught out your opponent and can quickly get the shuttle over them and into the rear court. This means they are taking the shuttle very late.

Paul

September 25, 2010
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Well that was, interesting, shall we say! It was a knockout tournament, but with the “losers” in the first round being entered into the Plate competition, a second tournament contested by all the losers.

 

Facing off against some very strong and fast opposition, how should I judge the success of the tournament? My goal, was to beat somebody. That was it. I wanted to win a match against one player.

 

My partner wasn't bad, but not really up to the standard of the other entrants (who were all county players), so the mens doubles was nothing to sing about. However, was pleased to uncover a weakness in my opponent against my drive serve. He did not like that one bit. The problem was his partner was a lot better… but hey, can't win em all! Over the past few months I have really worked on my defensive play, and it really showed in the match. I was able to block and push every smash back into awkward positions for my opponents, whereas a few months ago I probably wouldn't have got a racket on them! Success 🙂

 

In the MD plate competition, I beat a pair that were experienced, but definitely not up for it, and then lost in the semi to a pair we should have beaten, who simply overwhelmed my partner with the pace they played – they were both asian, both favouring a flat and fast attacking game.

 

THe singles was a similar story. I lost in the main draw against Martin Stradden (i think) who apparently was once an english national champion. I didn't feel great losing to a man who was probably twice my age though. So into the plate competition.

 

Here I played a young County player, probably third team. In three tight games I beat him, being down by two point at 19 – 17 in the third, before winning 22 – 20. This was a good match for me.

 

Finally, I played in the plate semi final, against someone I know, but have never really played against. Again, three gruelling games, but this time i came off worst. At 14-12 down in the third, my opponent then won 3 lucky points – i dominated the rallies but my opponent won the points with lucky defensive shots, just landing in, clipping the net etc. I then made two errors, and at 19-12 down, it was going to be very difficult to win. I Lost the next point, my opponent hit a cracking smash! I won the next two points: i knew my game plan! Flick serve down the middle and the pounce on his drop or smash reply. The flick serve was called by him as just long, of which I am not sure about, it looked an inch or so in, but that was it.

 

I then stuck around, had the pleasure of watching Daniel Groom play and win the Mens Singles Final.

 

What a day!

September 26, 2010
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Matthew

Thanks for sharing your results.

What's so interesting is that you set realistic goals and they were tough. And yet, there were a few “oh so nearly moments” which could have changed everything leaving you elated or disappointed.

One of the greatest aspects of goal setting is that many players only do half a job. When goal setting, you need to consider two key things:

1) outcome goal settings

2) performance goal settings

An outcome goal is reaching quarter finals, or beating a certain player you've never beaten before.

A performance goal is playing that backhand clear under pressure in a match, moving well or any other skill you choose to focus on.

Without actually saying it Matthew, you demonstrated both of these in your posts, so thank you. These are important lessons to learn.

Notice also that Matthew didn't set unrealistic goals. He didn't say he wanted to reach the final or win the tournament. He wanted to win 1 match – a huge difference. For too many players, goal setting is almost an all or nothing scenario and that's wrong, unless you're at the level that these are your only targets remaining. I'm sure our top players don't go into a tournament thinking they're going to win it. They win set realisitc targets with the underlying belief that they can achieve them and beat any player/pair on the day.

Paul

September 26, 2010
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You are right Paul! And I feel goals aren't discussed nearly enough – who reading this has a goal at the moment?

 

I use the Performance goals all year round, sometimes 1 or two a week. The whole list of things I covered at the start of my post were all performance based goals! With many of them I didn't tell people what my goal was – i simply said revise rearcourt footwork etc, but I knew in my mind exactly the stage and feeling I wanted to achieve from completing that practice – I have felt it before and I wanted to rediscover it! So as you can see I worked through a lot of performance goals in a very short time. But they were all aimed at winning that one match in the tournament, and hence being ready for this season, better than ever.

 

I still have plenty of goals – most of them performance goals, and some of them long term (footwork ones mainly!). But i have one or two more outcomes goals as well, scores I want to get against certain players who will normally beat me, my ability to compete at a higher pace etc.

 

Succeeding in these small goals, makes a huge difference to my game, my confidence, and my motivation! I hope some other people will post regarding their tournaments, and tell us how they did!

September 26, 2010
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Hello everyone,

 

I'm going to attend my first tournament next saturday. It's the tournament organized by my own club so I'm feeling some pressure playing in front of my “home crowd”. I guess it's gonna be my performance goal as Paul says, being able to play no matter what happens around me, always being focused on the game and not being affected by bad comments of people who are watching. If I want to be a little more precise, my goal is able to play at my standard level of game. When I play normally, I feel like everything is possible and moreover, I enjoy the game more. Whatever the results will be, I'm still happy as I did what I could do.

 

I'll only play in one category of game which is Male Double. My outcome goal is the semi-finals because I think my partner and I can reach it except we get hurt. 

 

There's one or two things I wanted to ask all of you. My first match begins at 3.30 PM and if we manage to win that one, the second will be at 8.20 PM. That means I have a lot of free time between.

 

What I really fear here, is getting on court after such a long time of inactivity. What do you recommend to me to stay in a good shape and not getting injured by rushing too much ?

 

Jonathan

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