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June 25, 2013
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Matthew Seeley
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Just wanted to say how impressed I have been in the last few weeks with Indonesian badminton. There was a time in recent years where Indonesia had Taufik Hidayat as their only real singles player, no top class mens doubles pairs (Markis Kido has not been fully fit for a long time), and no new talent in the mixed doubles or womens game.

Now, Hendra Setiawan has picked up a fantastic partner Mohammed Ashan, and they are showing how real doubles is played, demolishing the Korean pair Ko Sung Hyun and Lee Yong Dae twice in two weeks with thoughtful, aggressive badminton. Phenomenal. Hendra Setiawan has always been a quality player, but has lacked a consistent partner in the last few years. Now it looks like they may start to lead the way in mens doubles, bringing back memories of Tony Gunawan, Halim Haryanto, Chandra Wijaya and Sigit Budiarto. Their rotation in particular is excellent. I am pleased to see they are not too rigid e.g. Hendra Setiawan, renowned front court player, still going to the rearcourt sometimes to allow his partner to rush the net. I am convinced this is the way mens doubles should be played, rather than the slightly strange game I see emerging in the new Chinese mens doubles. Hopefully Cai and Fu will regain some form and fitness. As far as I am concerned, they are and will always be the best – the way doubles is meant to be!

Tantowi Ahmad seems to have come of age under the directions of Liliana Natsir. Natsir has been one of the best players in the world for a long time. Nova Widianto used to be top class, but since his retirement, it seems to have taken a while for Tantowi to get to grips with competition at the highest level.

I saw the other day that an indonesian womens singles player (Fenetri?) was doing some damage in the latter stages of the singapore open. I also saw a few indonesian mens singles players in the semi finals! This is great to see. Unfortunately Taufik has retired, but hopefully we will see some new mens singles players making a big impression!

 

So: well done indonesia! Welcome back to the top of the sport!

June 25, 2013
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Fair play Matt, you seem to really know your badminton! Smile

 

Unfortunately I don't have any idea of the names that you have just mentioned (Frown) but I am glad that another country is on the up. It's great to see the Danes breaking through and all the other countries rising to the challenge of breaking China's dominance.

 

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June 25, 2013
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Bang on the money Matt!!

That's exactly what I have been thinking…esp the doubles pair of Ashan and Setiawan are playing some very impressive badminton at the moment and they are still a relatively new pairing but are shooting up the world rankings. They have won the Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore open beating the current world number one pair each time!!! I love watching them play, the way the play is breathtaking at times…the rotation, variation, power and skill all leaving their opponents pretty clueless – LYD isn't exactly a slouch either. Both players (Ashan and Setiawan) in this new pair have had success before but it seems that they (at the moment) are a perfect match, it will be interesting to see how they progress and how the other pairs respond!!

I am currently in SEA and I remember reading that the badminton association of Indonesia went under a significant reshuffle at the end of last year or the beginning of this year after Olympic, Uber and Thomas cup failures in 2012. Former players have come in as coaches and directors (e.g. Rexy Mainaky), also players who were playing outside of the BA of Indonesia or as independent have been brought back into the fold – so the changes may be beginning to make a difference!!

From a Malaysian newspaper – http://thestar.com.my/sports/s…..sec=sports

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Graham

June 25, 2013
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I'm impressed with Tommy Sugiarto as well.

Now hopefully the Malaysians will shape up and produce some serious contenders for all disciplines. LCW is not getting any younger!

As for the Danes, they are in the same boat as the Malaysians. The Indian players have a promising future if they keep it up.

June 25, 2013
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GD said:

the rotation, variation, power and skill all leaving their opponents pretty clueless – LYD isn't exactly a slouch either…

Former players have come in as coaches and directors (e.g. Rexy Mainaky)

Graham – I got the impression that LYD was able to hold his own, but KSH was completely out of his depth, leaving LYD feeling a bit hopeless. In particular, their constant rotation is refreshing to see – as I said, I haven't witnessed this since the indonesian players 10 years ago!

Nova Widianto is also on the coaching bench nowadays. To be honest, I am not surprised to see, yet again, that great mens doubles success is following Rexy Mainaky around. Everywhere he goes he leaves world class mens doubles. Similar to Park Joo Bong in Japan 🙂 except Park seems to be improving EVERY event.

 

I can't believe they were BOTH let go from the England coaching setup (Park in particular…).

June 25, 2013
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I am also delighted to see the vast wave of players emerging from Indonesia. There is so much talent coming through. I think Setiawan is a very underestimated player. He has the ability to pull out the most amazing placement in his shots rather than full on power.

 

The combination with Ahsan is working so well and it is truly wonderful to watch. That said, I am disappointed in the performance of LYD and KSY in the finals against these pairs.

 

World Badminton is also seeing the emergence of Japan, Thailand, Chinese Taipai and India. We now need to see Malaysia pick up the gauntlet and find a fer more stars as we're pretty certain LCW will be retiring in 2014, possibly after Commonwealth Games.

 

I think the Danes are suffering at the moment and we are seeing the emergence of the Germans and Russians and the potential dominant forces in Europe.

 

As for England. We can't hold onto a coch for more than two years. Why? I've no idea but I can see so many of the international coaches that have found success abroad, and yet didn't really achieve it here. Is it our system, the lack of talent, the lack of desire? I really don't know.

 

When looking at the England squad, we do have some good players. However, there's very little challenge to Ouseph, poor fella. Nothing to shout out about in ladies singles. There's an hint of maybe in ladies doubles, more possibilities in Adcock/Ellis combination and also Adcock/White in mixed.

 

Langridge is showing signs of becoming a good player but his behaviour at UK Nationals has completely put me off him. That said he is looking quite good doubles but whether he goes beyond this, time will tell.

 

Will England ever become a dominant force again? I really can't see us doing anything in world team events. There is no strength in depth. There again, you could argue the same about Denmark at the moment, except for mens singles. Personally I cannot see us having a world-beating side for the next 5 years but I do wish to see our young players do well on the circuit.

 

I'm not here to slate England, I'll leave that to others, but it would be nice to have a team that is feared in Europe. At the moment we are too far away from seriously hurting other European teams, mainly due to the weakness in our ladies.

 

We all expect China to bounce back with another set of amazing players. They have the system, an abundance of players to choose from and a coaching team that is feared. Whether China can continue to rule by fear in the next decade remains to be seen.

 

What we don't know of course are the statistics regarding how many players go through the schools, how many leave injured and are unfit to play sport again, how many don't make it and return to lives of poverty. We also don't know what the Chinese coaches put the players through.

 

This year we've seen the emergence of Chen Long, who from nowhere has already established his place as No 2 in the world and Du Pengyu is close on his heels. With wins over LCW China do not need to bring Lin Dan off the bench. I do wonder whether we will actually see this great player in action again at his best.

 

To close, let's celebrate the return of Indonesia to the winners podium and hope they continue to develop more pairs to challenge the worlds best in every event. It would be nice to find a true successor to Taufik but I haven't seen that player yet.

 

Paul

June 25, 2013
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So am I (impressed by Ahsan/Setiawan) and I'm not (disappointed by LYD and Ko). Ko is of course a very good player (I won't beat him), but he's all power. There's no finesse. Of course if you have to fill the gap JJS left… MA/HS both have lots of power, and they have the finesse as well. They both have this easy style of playing, making world class badminton look like a walk in the park. Lee Hyun Il had that style too. I knew when they formed a team it would be awesome. I guess they won all in straight games. Can't wait for the WC !

A pity, but I don't see FH/CY returning to their former world ranking position. They were a golden team, but IMHO their reign is over. But at this level, they all are great players.

Cheers, ED

June 26, 2013
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I'm also impressed with Ahsan/Setiawan. Isn't it great to see players who do not have to rely mostly on power, although they can whack it with the best when needed. Their touch, vareation and tactical awarness has been revelation and a joy to watch. Anyone know the next event they're playing in. 

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