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What's Your Greatest Challenge?
June 7, 2010
10:04 am
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Marc said:

Hi,

As for me, I’m a progressivist. My greatest challenge is always to improve my overall game. I’m very into researching tips for whatever I feel needs attention at the moment, and I always look at what’s successful (i.e. what works). If it comes from an top pro, that’s as good as it gets. I’m amazed that I didin’t find out about you earlier, Paul.

Anyways, I can’t always find what I’m looking for, and so I have two questions to present in this topic:

1) Backhand drop: My backhand crosscourt drop has gotten me out of trouble countless times and I’m as proud of it as I am of my backhand clear. But my straight drop worries me. I use the same preparation I would any overhead backhands, but my straight drop isn’t steep enough to really count. It can land past the front service line if I try to put some pace, or barely in front of it when I go for a slow drop (which usually loses me the point then and there anyways). I’m always wary of my footwork and take the shuttle in a straight arc over my shoulder and slightly behind my head. I’m not sure what else to put here, and I lack the video camera I would need to show you what I’m doing wrong. Cry

2) Net drops: This one is a simple question. When performing a straight drop shot near the net, should I contact the shuttle on or near the sweet spot, or nearer the top strings? I know switching to the latter for my short backhand serves has done a tremendous amount of good for my game, but I can’t find any information on contact point for net drops.

I’m looking forward to replies, both from Paul and from more enlightened members. Wink


 Hi Marc
Great questions!

Let’s tackle your backhand drop first. If you are taking the shuttle slightly behind you, how do you use your hands to hit the shuttle down? Ideally, you should take the shuttle slightly earlier at the side of you or slightly in front.

Make sure your arm is fully extended at impact point (usually I find this isn’t happening and players are hitting flat). That’s usually why there is no angle on the shot. It’s fine cross court because the shuttle is being played at an angle and with speed.

You can still slice the backhand straight drop which means you can hit with some pace and get the angle. The key here is to ensure you do not rotate your upper body until the shot has been completed.

Try these first and let me know how you are progressing.

It is a shame you don’t have a camera. Can anyone film you, even using a mobile phone?

With regard to the net shot, try first contact above the sweet spot, ensuring the racquet face meets the shuttle with a slight downward angle. This ensures the shuttle cannot bounce back and you’d need less forward momentum to send the shuttle over the net. If it works for you then stick with it. If not, go with the sweet spot.

At the end of the day, if you find a way to consistently play the shot then that’s all that matters. Sometimes, a slight variation on technique gets better results.

looking forward to hearing from you.

Paul

June 7, 2010
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Thanks, Paul!

That’s what I meant, actually. I define “behind me” as the area behind my shoulders. I do take the shuttle early, except that my back is facing the net, hence ‘behind’. I constantly strive for higher contact points whithout undue strain.

I do tend to move my upper body quite a bit during overhead backhands, though. Keeping stable might just be the tweak I need to make it work.

You’re right about the drop shots at the net, too. I’m always fond of trying new things (and have changed about every aspect of my game multiple times), so I’ll give it a try tonight.

Once again, thanks for the great advice! Cool

June 7, 2010
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Marc

Let me know how you get on in training – I’m keen to help you get this right!

Paul

June 8, 2010
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Paul said:

Marc

Let me know how you get on in training – I’m keen to help you get this right!

Paul


Well I’m glad to have so much backing, but I’m going to have to wait, it seems.

I
was supposed to have another week but the city suddenly decided to stop
the badminton program two sessions early this summer. No explanation.
No respect.

I’ll do my best to get hold of a court. One where I
can get some practice. This one club has a complete stranglehold of the
only ones right now, and they play non-stop doubles with no chance to
even warm up, and I could squeeze about a half-hour a night. Plus the
atmosphere is terrible. Not at all friendly.

I’ll see what I can do, otherwise I’ll be forced to shadow outside and train physically until fall.

All I need’s a lit gym with lines. I even have my own portable net. Frown

June 8, 2010
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Paul said:

Arfandy

It’s amazing how much of performance is about your mental condition.

Let me ask you this question…”what are you saying to yourself when you play a better player and what are you saying to yourself when you are playing a player you can beat easily?”

You see, what you say to yourself has a massive impact on how you play. I get the feeling you watch a good player and your “self talk” is centred around how string they are, how well they move etc. In other words, you hype up their abilities so that you feel you are playing against a champion. This immediately sends the wrong messages to your brain and creates the feeling of being inferior. This in turn leads to nerves, an almost acceptance of defeat and then you play the way to be defeated because your brain told you your opponent was better.

When watching a good player, have you ever watched on the basis of looking for areas to test for weakness. If you watch with a tactical approach to your thinking, then your brain is trying to figure out how to beat them rather than telling you you’re going to lose. That’s a massive difference.

Likewise, when watching an inferior player, look for the same weak areas and favourite shots from different places (there will be fewer of them than with good players). Get your game plan together and then try it out.

I think that if you went on court with the right tactics, then this mental issue will be less severe, maybe even disappear altogether. Give it a try and let me know how you get on.

 

Paul


 

Paul,

I never thought that a slight thinking about being inferior or superior would affect some much my game plan. I’ve been repeating to have these thought for as long as i started badminton. It is really hard to try telling myself if i were inferior or superior. Couple times i was told by senior players that i should never underestimate or overestimate fellow players. Several times, I tried your method to send the “right” messages to my brain by entirely not seeing how pros played, or i played against them right from the beginning without screening their strengths & weaknesses.

The result was, if were lucky enough would get a rubber-set which the third game wouldn’t be played because of exhaustion of both parties. Anyway, it’s been months i didn’t meet better players in place i often play. Even my double partner for years was leaving me off somewhere. Thus, the people i often play with would partner me with some random guy, whom ussually weaker than me. They say it makes the balance of the game, but i really couldn’t enjoy the right pace of the game because the opponents know whom to attack from beginning. The worst was, my favorite racket was often got crashed with my partner’s !Frown Because of this situation, i also recently developed the feeling of ready to lose when i know whom i would be partner with. Altough i know i would win when play 1 vs 2, but no such game allowed in my club. Do you think this is a mental problem of mine has some solution or rather leave it off because there isn’t much i can do during the game.

 

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