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Barefoot badminton shoes
March 17, 2013
5:42 pm
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So I bought these:

Vibram KomodoSport LS

a few weeks back and have ~10 hours playing in them.

 

While I accept that they may not be the prettiest things to look at (I have the black/blue colourway) i can tell you this – they are the best court shoes I've ever used. Easily.

The sole is extremely grippy – you do not need to worry about slipping.

They are comfortable.

The best thing is the “zero-drop” – the heel is no higher than the toes and that makes it much easier to balance. You can also stand much straighter while keeping your weight on the balls of your feet (for fast reactions).

It forces your footwork to be good. Clunking around the court in these will hurt.

They are incredibly light, so weigh you down less.

Durability: I know of one person who says his pair are still going 18 months on.

 

I found that lunges in these don't hurt (if you don't land hard on your heel). YMMV.

 

The downside is the cost – in the US the cost is reasonable (about the same as high end Yonex shoes), but in the UK they are very expensive (~£110). That said, I think they're worth every penny – and DirectSports have them on offer at £88 if anyone's interested. I wear them with a pair of Injinji Performance toe socks.

 

While I hardly expect anyone to drop this much on such an unconventional pair of shoes, I'll just put this out there so you consider it. I love them, and am never going back.

March 19, 2013
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These certainly are unconventional shoes and therefore will struggle to appeal to players. You would certainly need many high profile players wearing them before they catch on.

 

Paul

March 19, 2013
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I'd give them a go, but not for £80. I'm a bit sceptical as far as using them as a badminton shoe goes but I did see a program recently that basically said all running shoes were just marketing hype. It was a pair similar to these that came out very well as it makes people run as they would naturally, rather than how a shoe makes them. On that basis maybe these would help you move more naturally round the court.

As someone who plays league badminton 2-3 times a week I would be worried about the lack of cusioning and ankle support. You would surely lose the stability a badminton shoe gives you?

March 19, 2013
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For running, the value in these shoes is that it forces you to “run correctly”.

 

Similarly, my badminton footwork was never consistent. At the end of a session I'd be clunking around. In these however I'm much more nible, lighter on my feet (with no loss of speed).

As a league player I doubt you have this problem.

 

I will say this: find out local retailers from Vibram's website, and if it's on the way, try them on. The first thing you notice is how hard it is to get your toes in the slots (though it becomes really quick in a week or two).

Then there's how light they are, how you can move your toes. You stand up, and have to relearn how to balance – most shoes have raised heels, so you put your weight through there,  instead of around the middle of your foot. My balance is now much better.

Your foot is much closer to the ground so you feel – well, more grounded. As for the stability issue – have you ever rolled your ankle while barefoot, or does that happen when your shoes have thick soles you trip over?

 

Ankle support – I don't think normal badminton shoes have this anyway, do they?

Cushioning – a very good point. A problem that would only arise during jump-smashing. This model has an insole that does provide some cushioning, but nowhere near as much. That said, a good landing in any shoe would have you landing on the balls of your feet, sinking down to absorb the impact with your calves and arch (which is supposed to be weakened by lack of use due to conventional shoes). So this may not be that much of an issue (unless you are very heavy).

 

Finally, of course, there is lifespan to think about. If it does last you 18 months will that be much longer than your normal badminton shoes? These could even be cost efficient in that sense. If your surface is too abrasive (e.g. concrete) it'd rub through the soles very quickly, but wood should be fine.

 

If your club allows, try standing on a court barefoot (no socks!). Then try a few footwork patterns. Knock a shuttle about (nothing too fast, truly barefoot that will bruise badly). if you like what you feel, or are just interested, try on a pair in a shop. Sizes are very specific, so I'd only get it done in person.

 

TL;DR

Try standing on a court barefoot, hit a few shuttles. Compare it with wearing shoes. Then try some on at a store. Make up mind.

Don't worry about ankle support, look at how badly it affects your jump-smashes.

 

Final Note: you may be so used to badminton shoes that these would just be too dificult for you to switch to. Discounting them without trying them on first is a mistake though.

March 20, 2013
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Moragg

 

Many thanks for the advice regards these shoes. I sincerely hope this is purely out of your personal findings on these shoes rather than you have a non-disclosed commercial interest in them and using this forum to promote them – which is against forum rules.

 

I am always keen to learn from others, and new equipment is interesting, especially if there is a real performance shift for the player. But, the biggest barrier to overcome is the look of the shoe and one that many players will not cross.

 

Karakal introduced a shoe a couple of years ago specifically designed by a foot specialist. That wasn't a great seller and yet it was superb to wear and performed very well indeed. The mistake they made was making the shoe in black initially rather than white.

 

Paul

March 21, 2013
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I am a person who wears toe shoes (though not for badminton), and I personally couldn't think of a worse shoe to play in.  

If I played in these more than once a week, my feet would be decimated. 

Different strokes for different folks. 

March 21, 2013
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-double post edit-

March 21, 2013
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All I've said above are my own findings. I have absolutely no comercial interests (here or elsewhere, I'm still in school).

 

Marc1313 – that's pretty cool! Which ones do you have?

March 21, 2013
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Moragg

 

Many thanks for clearing that up. It's amazing how many times new sign ups try to post an advert on this forum withour seeking permission .

 

These shoes are a very interesting concept. Whislt they may work really well, I can't see this being the next revolution in badminton footwear.

 

Paul

March 21, 2013
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What a great post, thank you for taking the time to put your thoughts on here.

For me the cusioning issue is more for lunges and the general comfort of being on court for hours a week. Jump smashing not really an issue as you shouldn't really be coming straight down, it should be a forward motion so no great impact.

The one final point I would make in terms of using them for badminton is they would need to be made specifically for it in terms of durablity. Badminton shoes are designed to take the various scuffs and drags that come with that sort of movement, I know I drag my left foot and cause wear in the upper part of the shoe. I reckon I'd rip through none court shoes in under a month. Surprised

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