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String Testing
April 14, 2011
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Matthew Seeley
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Simon, a recommended pattern is which holes in the racket you should be using for which strings, and where you should be tying knots. There are several important things to note:

 

(1) Where to tie the knots on the main strings – normally grommet 8 at the bottom.

NOTE: to find a grommet (which is the black thing that stops the string rubbing against the racket frame when it goes through the hole) it is normal to start in the centre of the racket, and count outwards e.g. to find grommet 8 at the bottom on the left hand side of your racket (symmetric for the right hand side), what you would do is find the t-joint at the bottom of the racket, and find the grommet to the left of the t-joint. This grommet is grommet 1. Having found this one, simply count as you go to find the desired grommet. Hope that made sense.

 

(2) Where to start the cross strings – it doesn't matter whether you start on the left or right, but it does matter whether you start at the head or near the throat (t-joint) of the racket – it can affect the shape of the racket and hence why it is specified. New yonex rackets start the cross strings at the bottom (roughly grommet 6), and tie them off at the top.

 

(3) What to do on the outer main strings – imagine there are 11 main strings on each side (fairly standard I think), when you get towards the side, instead of just going up the second to last main, then down the last one as you might expect, instead, you go up the “last” main (the one further from the centre – haveing missed out the one next to it) and then coming down to replace the string you just missed out.

NOTE: This helps keep the tension in the racket when you tie off the knots. after you pull the final cross string, and you need to tie the knot to finish it off, you then pull the string through one of the earlier holes (grommet 8 – which already has a string in it) and tie the knot around the string that is already in place. That bit of string that goes around the outside edge of the frame, never gets tensioned by a machine, but by hand. Hence, by doing the trick mentioned above, the bit you have to try and pull tight yourself gets a little smaller, making it easier.

 

(4) Finally, make sure that the main (vertical) strings and the cross strings go through the correct grommets – quite hard to get this wrong, as it looks silly and you know you've made a mistake.

 

Here is the link to the yonex stringing instructions:

http://www.yonex.com/badminton…..index.html

 

Its easy (and basically the same on all rackets) once you see it done – or look at your own racket and see if it was done that way.

 

Has that cleared that one up?

April 14, 2011
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p.s. the VT80 isn't mentioned on that page. From the 2011 catalogue, the VT80 is the same as the VT70 (the second picture).

 

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April 14, 2011
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This is the one I have[Image Can Not Be Found]

 

I just went into my local fishing store and asked for digital fishing scales, I think it cost about 12 quid which is about the same price as the black tube version you can get for stringing machines.

 

If you do get one, you may notice that you will get different readings depending on where the handle is (that you use to pull) due to different length of string. As Matt mentioned before, it's not so much getting it bang on target of said tension (it will never happen), but being consitant so that if you like 23lbs, you know the next time you do it that it will be 23lbs and feel the same as before. I have taken my rackets to stringers and asked for same string and same tenstion and it has been noticeable different and this is by the same stringer. This is one one of the things that drove me to stringing rackets myself.

 

I'm sure your friend will give you the basics, worth making notes as you go along. Once you know the basics you can string a racket without stringing patterns and work the pattern out yourself in my opinion (though Paul might tell me off there Laugh). As Matt said, you probably will only do a couple of rackets as a test, then you may as well just get on with it. I went in the deep and and just did it, no testing. You might find your first few restrings will take 2 to 2 and half hours, so you will have to keep the misses happy if your going to practise on five rackets! Laugh

 

You will make mistakes along the way, but this is the best way of learning. Off the top of my head, I think I have only made a mistake once and not done it again. You will get loads of stuff that you will learn from, like missing grommets, missing a weave, cat eating your string (yes, it happened to me! Surprised) and what not. Stringing is exspensive, espeaclly the start up. Tools aren't cheap and you need to work out what tools you need. Don't go over board as there is more tools than needed availble. I went for a gromment remover tool like this one Image Enlarger.

 

It will take time to get up to speed and I did rackets at my club and in two years I broke even and paid off the machine, so in a sense, I didn't pay for the machine (if you get what I mean). But in the long run it is worth doing.

 

Also, drop weight machines tend to be more accurate than spring crank machines, as in a sense they will constant pull the string. But this is another ball game altogether.

 

Just get cracking, it'll be fine and what seems complicated now will all make sense sooner or later and then you will be writing your own posts as long as mine and Matt's giving all sorts of advice! Laugh You might even end up giving us advice! I'm always open to new things

 

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April 14, 2011
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Now Simon

Do you take the blue pill and see how much there is out there or the red pill and forget all about it?

Paul

April 14, 2011
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As Peter says: do it a few times and you will know what you are doing 🙂 It doesn't take long. I spent lots of money to get really good tools. Get some good “flying clamps” from yonex. They are brilliant in my opinion!

 

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April 15, 2011
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Yonex fly clamps aren't very good in my opinion, too small and fiddly, you want some MBS fly clamps, they are way better Laugh

 

Simon, blue pill, blue pill, take the blue pill, the dark side is calling, bluuuuuuuue pillllllllll, you know if makes sense………………. Laugh

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April 15, 2011
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I’ve used the Yonex flying clamps – black ones are excellent, purple not as good.

There are plenty of tools out there and I’m sure you can find good suppliers. If you’re not sure where to get tools and string PM me.

Good luck with this Simon. I think you’ll find that some common sense and following of the racquet stringing guides will make your life easy. If you come across a racquet that doesn’t conform to any standard threading guide, feel free to ask the forum. Personally, I’d photograph the racquet, draw my own stringing guide from the string that’s currently in it and then find a photo on the web that you can cross reference your data.

Let us know how you are doing.

Paul
PS There are no prizes for stringing a racquet in under 30 minutes so take your take. My first racquet took me around 1 hour and that was tough remembering all the little things.

April 15, 2011
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I am referring to the black yonex flying clamp. I think it is excellent and a very reasonable price (around £10 i believe). You need two, but heyho. I would also reocmmend some sort of strating clamp, for when you start the main strings (it holds the string on the outside of the frame) and they are useful, should you reach the end of the racket and realise you haven't got enough string to put in your tensioning device. They have small holes in so that you can attach some old string which can go into the tensioning device and pull the proper string.

 

I reckon my first racket took me in the region of 2 hours. It was a long and hard process (with a very thick string – difficult to get it through the shared holes). However, after 2 or 3, it was relatively quick (around an hour). Now, it is more like 35-40 minutes, but there are always extra things that might be useful – changing grommets, checking the frame, going and getting a drink – important things 🙂

 

Good luck simon!

April 16, 2011
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Well. I picked up the machine last night, the guy showed me loads of stuff so I thought I'd have a little go while it was still fresh in my mind.

Made a complete hash of it and got bored so I went to the pub instead.

Gonna spend a couple of hours on it today, it can't be any worse than last night.

April 17, 2011
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I can string rackets now.

I have a couple of questions still if you don't mind guys.

When you do the last bit of the main string, so you miss a hole and come back on yourself, wherabouts do you clamp it ?

I just forced it over but it doesn't seem right to me.

How much attention should I pay to grommets ?

They obviously have a part to play and my rackets are new so I don't see it being a problem but I might do a couple for friends so thought I should probably find out.

Are there different types and if so would it matter if i didn't use the right one's ?

Last thing, I'd rather take advice from you guys than Yonex so what are your opinions on the main/cross tensions ?

The guy who showed me admitted he hadn't come up with a definitive answer but said that, for him, doing the main at 10% less than the cross was his preferred method.

Thanks again, and the blue pill tastes really sweet.

 

Simon

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