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Racquet Decision / Dilemma
June 2, 2011
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Grad to hear everyone is getting some constructive feedback on this forum. I went ahead and bought the 8DX a few days back and will be picking it up tomorrow. Strung at 26/28 and going to try the Ultimax66 strings which I've been warned will break in no time. :p We'll see how it is tomorrow!

June 2, 2011
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I personally found the BG66UM string (at a similar tension, in the same racket) lasted for about a month. This is pretty good for me, as I play many many times a week. Its probably less durable than some other yonex strings, but I found it was remarkably good!

June 2, 2011
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I've tested BG66 Ultimax and really love it. It plays a little softer than BG80 and I'm now consdering staying on this string – it's that good.

It can be a long process finding the right string/tension combination. It's almost a moving target because you have to re-test when you change racquets or if you improve as a player and find you want more from your current set up.

Who says this game is so predictable?

Paul

June 4, 2011
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Yesterday, I played with both my 8DX for the 1st time and the VT80 as some of my friends took my racquet to play. I must honestly say I was more consistent with the VT80 in terms of hitting it at the sweet spot. It could possibly be because I played with the racquet more than the 8DX, but I would need more time with the racquet to experience its true potential.

As for the BG66 Ultimax, it gave me more control than the BG65Ti I usually play with. I played with a plastic birdie yesterday though, so I don't want to say much more. Will be playing with feather in tomorrow's session to get a more accurate feel of the play. I can imagine slices will be quite responsive to where you want it to go. The strings and the tension did fool me a bit as it gave a high pinging sound when it didn't really go that far. Something to get used to or possibly due to the plastic bird.

Excited to give it a more accurate test tomorrow! Then, off to watch the Canucks game. 🙂

June 4, 2011
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Well quite frankly 26/29 lbs is way too high for plastic shuttles, but for feathers it should be fine if you have a good technique 🙂

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June 8, 2011
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Yea, def. not a huge fan of plastic birds, but play with them on 1 of the 2 days I play since someone else brings the birds in.

June 8, 2011
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Peazs

It may be that you need to consider a second racquet strung at lower tensions to play with plastic shuttles, otherwise i fear a shoulder or arm injury arm going to surface.

Glad you like BG66 Ultimax – it really is a brilliant string.

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June 11, 2011
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Hi Paul,

That may be the way to go if I don't want to cause any stress on the shoulder or arms in trying to get that same power as from a feather bird (I understand I'll need to hit harder in comparison to a feather bird to get the same power since the 2 types of birds fly differently). Are you referring to this?

As for string type, I still haven't quite figured out what I like out of the range of strings out there. I have always been switching around to try different strings, but can't quite pinpoint which I like better. The BG65Ti I've been using lately, since I've been given a bunch as a gift, is doing pretty good for me. The longest time before that, I was using the BG70 Pro. Are these 2 strings quite similar? Before, I've been trying to find ways to increase power, but now, my aim is to find something that would provide more control.

Lastly, when researching different strings, I noticed many new and better-reviewed strings mention “excellent repulsion” or “high respulsion” with great control, etc. Don't you want lower repulsion for more control though, or am I getting something mixed up here? References from an old article you wrote as well here: “The lower repulsion and higher control characteristics are what the top players are seeking…” Any insight?

Thanks!

Wes

June 11, 2011
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Also, you were mentioning a 2nd racquet with lower tension… I do have other racquests to use, but they are pretty much my spares as I usually like to concentrate on playing with one main racquet only. Since each racquet plays a bit differently, is the only option to get the same racquet but strung at a lower tension? Not willing to do that though, but just curious!

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peazs:

Paul recommended getting another racket strung at a lower tension BECAUSE you will find it easier to generate power with this racket, and hence it will be suitable for playing with those plastic shuttles (which need to be hit harder). Thus, playing with a high tension with feathers, should be very similar (in terms of required power) to playing with a low tension with plastics. Paul said that, without taking this into consideration, it may be you try to hit plastic shuttles too hard, thus causing yourself an injury.

 

If you can't really tell what type of string you like at the moment, pick one that you think is ok and that seems to last the longest. That is a good place (and slightly cheaper!) to start with. Experiment more with that one string, find out what tension you like! I would recommend sticking with BG65ti if you have some spare – its a nice string and plays well.

 

Now then, I could be WAY off the mark here, but as I understand it, “repulsion” refers to how long the shuttle stays on the string.

High repulsion, means the shuttle does NOT stay on the string for long. This means, in general, that the shuttle is easier to control – it will move away as soon as it hits the racket, and thus is easier to control the direction of. Lower repulsion, means the shuttle stays on the string for longer. This, in theory, means that the shuttle could pick up a little more power (imagine a “trampoline” like effect). Now realistically, this is not an exact science, but a rough guide. In general, lower tensions provide lower repulsion, whilst higher tension give greater repulsion. It is possible, that at the same tension, some strings give more repulsion than others. Thus, advanced players are looking for a blend of low repulsion (power) but whilst retaining control. A balance has to be found somewhere.

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