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1:59 pm
May 25, 2010
I really glad this topic was raised. Since I've been reading other people's thoughts (especially Paul's last post), I'm slowing coming round to the idea that my weak smash shouldn't hamper me so much and if I deal with placement then I will get more placement smashes than power ones. Obviously I do win a few power ones ( ) but not enough for me to gain a reputation for them. As as Matt said, you need to keep the shots mixed to keep them guessing.
But learning to accept what you can and can't do is half the battle. I really need to work on my net control. Nothing worse than playing a really good rally to go to the net to drop it over but end up lobbing the shuttle half a metre up before it goes over! But I feel my serves are good and my return of serves are getting better, which isn't just starting a rally is it?
Oh, and just to look at it from another view point, if someone does a big powerful smash against you, one of the best ways to steal their thunder is to get them back, better still, to win the point! It's actually one of my favourite shots, there's a guy at my club and when I win the point against one of his thunder smashes, his face is a picture!
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9:21 pm
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December 4, 2010
Moving this on again for double players, would your preference for a partner be a power player or a skill player? And so as not to leave you single players out? Do you prefer playing against skill or power, which causes you more problems?
For me when playing levels I prefer playing with a powerful player, I like to set him up for the smash then I can feed off of the week return, then as the game evolves we mix drops & smashes to keep them guessing. When I played mixed doubles I like playing with a skilled player who can (as Paul says) own the net. Which either ends up with a net kill or a lift for a kill or for me to set my partner up. Since Speaking with Paul, I’ve have stopped trying to hit winners all the time, I’m now attempting to set my partner up, which is working a treat & somehow more enjoyable : ) keep your thoughts coming ; )
10:20 am
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August 12, 2010
My preference for a partner would be a skillful one. I am assuming that by “power player” we are referring to someone with an exceptionally powerful smash, and that they do not possess lots of deception and variations. A skillful player will still have a very reasonable smash, but will be able to place the shuttle more accurately and possesses a larger variety of shots. It is important that the decision is not “do you wish your partner had more or less power?” – there must be a sense of trade off otherwise it is not worth discussing. Anyway – why do I want this kind of partner?
A powerful player will be able to finish off rallies where the shuttle is lifted short, and the occasional random winner from further back. Against a weak defence, they may create lots of opportunities to kill the shuttle. However, against a good defence, power means nothing. A good defence will happily keep the power player at the back, because they know that nobody can really hit through them from the back line (once or twice is acceptable – it will not be the norm).
A skillful player will be able to finish off the rallies where the shuttle is lifted short, but by hitting the lines or being deceptive. A skillful player will not be able to hit winners from the back line, but will instead create doubt in the mind of his opponent – they should have no idea where the next shuttle is going. Moreover, they will be worried about the “inevitability” of lifting to a skillful player. No matter how well you defend, a skillful player will give you very little rhythm and constantly create doubt. This leads to plenty of opportunities for both players to kill the shuttle.
Thus, against a weak defence, the power player will have an easier job of winning points (setting me up at the net). But against a strong defence, they become powerless. Furthermore, their lack of front court game is probably going to hinder the partnership, meaning we get “stuck” in our “favoured” formation with them at the back and me at the front, and unable to really dominate our opponents. However, a skillful partner will run rings around a weak defence, and will seriously stress out a stronger defence, but will also have the ability to implement different tactics to try and gain an advantage. We will be able to rotate and, importantly, I will get a turn at the back 😀
In terms of singles, the level of skill or power of the player doesn't really matter – it is their quality of movement around the court. Playing against a very fast and very powerful opponent is extremely difficult, until your defence reaches a certain standard whereby you can retrieve their powerful shots. Similarly, playing against a skillful opponent that is extremely fast is very difficult, because you will have to cover more of the court and will have to twist and turn more – until your movement efficiency reaches a certain standard whereby you can rally comfortably covering the whole court at a slightly “slower” pace. Thus – your ability to play against both types of player is determined by your movement skills. I think a powerful player will be easier to deal with on the whole, as they tend to have less variety (which is a killer for footwork!).
2:03 pm
May 25, 2010
Matthew Seeley said:
We will be able to rotate and, importantly, I will get a turn at the back
Very good point that actually! As any type of player, you need to be covering all the court to practice your shots and if the power player is hogging the back line, it's possible that you don't get to practice smashing that much so that when it does come to your turn then the smash isn't as good as it could be. Which could then make the power player hog the back line even more as they feel that you will mess up. It can be a big knock on effect and cause more problems that you can imagine. Although this all depends on the person as not all power players are the same.
I only play doubles mostly so all my posts on this topic are from my doubles experience. I do like to have a power player as a partner as it does help put away those shots but as Matt rightly pointed out, this will mainly only works against weaker defence pairs.
I think it helps if both partners are good all round with a slight more skilled or power play aspect. As Paul's recent articles have been discussing, focus on your weakness rather than your strengths otherwise you become a bit one dimensional.
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