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Voltric range - any insider news?
April 13, 2011
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Is this the first time we’re all agreed? Champion!

I totally agree about the lack of conformity between manufacturers. There are enough disagreements amongst players about flex in shafts and how head heavy/light a racquet is.

Over the years, we’ve somehow managed to make this subject so complex.

It’s now to all members of this forum to remember this and do our best to simplify whenever possible. And that my friends is the core of my coaching philosophy, just in case you ever wondered.

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April 27, 2011
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I do like the way Yonex has “segmented” the various racket categories, which is useful for someone who is choosing their next purchase based on the kind of racket “feel” desired. I think the categories of head heavy, head light, repulsion, and hold are quite generic enough in terms of how they map to actual player preferences and playing habits (it also helps that Yonex has been in the business far longer than most everyone else). Someone who prefers head light rackets from Carlton, for instance, will not likely waste too much time testing out head heavy offerings based on information in the chart if he or she were to switch to Yonex. Of course, as Paul mentioned, there is no substitute for testing in real life, but such a chart puts everything in the proper perspective. Granted the various racket lines such as Voltric, Arcsaber, Nanospeed, etc have different design philosophies, but it is something that other manufacturers can also emulate. In fact it may even be to their own advantage; Victor, for instance, could come up with their own similar chart with the proper product “placement” within the four quadrants. Li Ning would be another. These two have extensive product lines but I tend to get confused reading the various reviews and am not sure how they map to the Yonex “equivalent” (for better or for worst).

April 27, 2011
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Its funny you should say that about carlton head light letting you know where to look. My old headlight Carlton Ariblade Rasmussen Ti feels virtually identical to the Arcsaber 8DX. They should be fairly different in my opinion based on racket charts, but something to do with the “heaviness” of the head light racket (as in the total frame weight was larger) and the aerodynamic qualities of the 8DX, meant they just felt the same! Madness! Always try the racket out first 😀

April 27, 2011
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Personally I think racquet charts are a complete waste of time. How can a manufacturer say that a racquet is particularly suited to doubles defensive style when they don’t know the player? Yes, I appreciate there are characteristics of racquets that support a certain type of style.

But…the difficulty with these charts is that too many players follow them blindly. OK, I admit I’m in a very priviledged position because I get to test a lot of racquets. However, that’s because my retailers believe in investing in demo racquets.

If you don’t have the opportunity to test demos, then what you need to do is test other players racquets to narrow down your likes/dislikes in a racquet e.g. you like head heavy but can’t play with head light racquets. Great, now all you need to do is understand whether you prefer a stiff, medium or flexible shaft, grip size, weight and you should be able to narrow down your search considerably.

The problem is, you can do all of this and none of the racquets feel right. It’s almost an elusive blend, that when you get it right, you know it.

Happy hunting.

Paul

April 28, 2011
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Couldn't agree more Paul, according to the chart the VT80 is my perfect racket but I can't play with it no matter how hard I try.

April 29, 2011
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It'd be interesting to hear your views on why the VT80 isn't suitable for your playing style, Simon. What do you play with at the moment?

 

I read recently that Carlton is transitioning to Dunlop Sports as a brand name, but am not sure what the future of the product line is going to be. Seems to me somewhat short sighted since the Carlton name is synonymous (or at least used to be) with quality badminton rackets and equipment. Now that it's a subsidiary of Dunlop Slazenger, I hope they don't lose too much of their badminton focus. At least back in the 80s when I was starting to play the game, one was either in the Yonex or Carlton “camp.”

April 30, 2011
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Carlton has been a subsidiary of Dunlop Slazenger for years. From memory they have been together for around 20 years, but don’t quote me on that.

Ray, VT80 isn’t going to suit all players. It may be it’s too stiff compared to VT70. Lee Chong Wei didn’t like VT70 saying it was too flexible.

I go out of my way to stress that choosing a racquet is very personal. And yet, I still receive 3-5 emails a day from players asking me to recommend a racquet for them .

Paul

May 1, 2011
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I think my problem with the VT80 is I can't seem to move the racket as fast as I can with my VT70.

It feels superb when I practise with it but there's something that isn't quite right for me when I'm playing properly.

I play mostly doubles so I don't know if that makes a difference.

I'm gonna give it one more week and then flog it off cheap.

May 1, 2011
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Simon, I can almost guatuntee that if you hadn't wielded the VT70, you would think the VT80 was quick. However, like you say, the incredible racket that is the VT70 is extremely quick! You obviously like this 😀 For me, the VT80 was incredibly quick but not as quick as my Arc8DX. However, it was quick enough given that it has a little more weight in the head (less pressure on racket head speed asmore done by the weight of the racket), but that little more weight in the head just makes everything else so much better for my stroke production. This is why its so great to be able to test multiple rackets. You think one is great (my 8DX reall is breathtaking), but then another one is just better (my VT80) – but you don't know how! It sounds as if in your case, that VT70 is just the right thing!

May 1, 2011
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As much as VT80 is an awesome racquet, it won’t suit everyone. I loved the speed of it and preffered the extra weight and stiffness compared to VT70.

Like Matthew, I currently use 8DX which feels incredibly light compared to VT80. However, I’m still changing racquets in August if I can.

Paul

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