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Beating the best
June 4, 2011
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Hi

 

Been looking around the other forums and i'm starting to think I might be the only Australian on this website. Most of the best players I've seen around my place aren't even Australian. But really, I was just wondering, how can I win. 

Does anyone know what to do when you come across a player who can smash hard, pull out crazy net shots and hit shuttles between their legs. Most of the time, its 5 games to 1. Not sure how i won even 1 of them, must have been lucky. I have been using a Slazenger SGS 80 in singles and when i play doubles against him, i prefer using my Nanospeed 300. I recently got a new Voltric 70, 15% off as well with BG80 strings, 24lbs. I haven't used the Voltric against him just yet, but when I get the chance, could anyone please give me advice on how to beat this guy and what tactics i can use against him. 

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Scotty Smile

June 4, 2011
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/1802/what-do-you-do-when-it%E2%80%99s-all-going-wrong-in-your-badminton-match/

In that article you will find a lot of good tips on what to do when you're clearly outclassed. But most of the time, if you don't have a gameplan you will lose, so work one out. Focus on how to exploit your opponent's weaknesses (it seems like you've played him a couple of times so you should know 'bout them) and how to use your own strenghts.

/696/secret-badminton-skills-you-must-possess-in-order-to-out-manoeuvre-outplay-and-outscore-your-opponent-to-win-the-game-%E2%80%93-part-1/

I can't help you much in terms of tactics because you don't describe what type of player your opponent is. In the above article, Paul has classified the badminton players in 5 categories, if you could tell us what type of player he is, that would help a lot to help you set up your gameplan.

Finally, don't think too much about your equipment. It doesn't matter if you play with a Muscle Power 10 or the Voltric 80 against him, what matters more are your technical and tactical skills.

PS: Don't let between-the-legs shots unsettle you, most of the time they mean a free point for you anyway 🙂

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June 4, 2011
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Hello there,

I'm incredibly sorry for being rude, but were you expecting people to tell you that now that you got the VT70 you could crush him easily?
Sure it helps, but if your technique sucks that aamzing racket doesn't really work out.

Now onto the constructive part of my post: I recommend you to read the articles on this site. A good mindset is very important in a match.
You didn't give us much to work with, but try to calmly get a feel for your opponents game and try to find his weakness.
If you encounter problems during the rallies, memorize them. Chances are that if you focus on these problems, you could get over your weaknesses.

If your technique is poor, try to ask your trainer wether what you are currently doing is really 'right'. When I returned to badminton I thought I was doing things right, only to discover that my dropshots were shallow becuase of bad technique.If your opponent is a lot faster than you, find out why that is. Watch a couple of his matches while he's playing against other people.
This is also discussed in the aforementioned article, but every player his their own playstyle. Get a feel for his gameplay and figure a way to counter it. Respond to your opponent and make sure you don't let him do what he wants.

June 5, 2011
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Well Yves

 

I'd say this guy would easily fit into an Aggressive Attacking player. Everything in that section suits him perfectly. I would fit into a Defending Thinker. The other article also helped a lot. Thanks

 

Scotty

June 5, 2011
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Hi Scotty,

My advice would be to push yourself to be more aggressive. If you are being defensive when playing against a strong attacking player then chances are you will end up in trouble. I would say defending thinkers have more success in doubles as their partner can often provide the finishing moves.

Try attacking flat clears and being sure to smash when you get the opportunity. This should push your opponent back slightly which in turn will make them later to your drop shots, allowing you into the game that way as well.

Let's face it, attacking is more fun anyway, so go for it!

June 5, 2011
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Folks, by now there are quite a lot of articles by now. What helps for me is that I reread them from time to time, just to see if I missed something, and to refresh my mind (print them and put them into your bag). If you watch players play that you will have to play against, try to follow them (instead of the shuttle) for a few shots, just to analyse their movement and recovery from shots. If you follow the shuttle, you'll miss the recovery.

If there would be one golden racket that beats them all, everybody would play that racket, wouldn't they ? So don't expect too much from your new racquet. But if it suits you're playing style, it will sure add some extra to your game and shots. Any world top 10 player, give him a squach racquet and he (or even she) will blow you off court.

Scotty, let us know how you're next clash with this guy turned out.

Cheers, ED

June 5, 2011
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My next game with this guy is not till saturday. I have read the articles on beating tougher players and I will print some of them out later. Thanks for all the help guys. Will tell you how I go. Smile

June 9, 2011
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Hi Scotty

You can try to use something my coach calls BURST technique againsts that guy.
Whenever the game is very close and both players have a score of less than 10 ; say 8-9 you can pick up your game pace to a tempo higher than your opponents and upset his gameplay. When doing so u should try and get 7 out of the 9 following points.
By this time your opponent will probably have picked up his pace to a level where he is not comfortable. Now you should drop your pace to your normal game pace and stick to the basics and DONT make mistakes. This way u should be in full control of the match.

Best of luck for your upcoming games.

Amit 

June 12, 2011
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Scotty
I’m looking forward to finding out how you got on against this player over the weekend.
So how does a defender thinker style beat an agressive attacker?
First of all recognise that if he is playing shots through his legs then he’s got weaknesses. You just need to learn how to exploit them.
1) Aggressive attackers like games with pace. You need to use the court to the max to take pace off the game. This means hitting higher than normal shuttles so you upset your opponent’s rhythm. They then have to wait for the shuttle to fall with hitting distance (some thing they don’t like).
2) Mix up your overhead with slice smashes, stick smashes, reverse slice, body shots so that the agressive attacker is picking up more shuttles from the floor. This means you’re attacking a little more but you will need to. You cannot sit back and defend and hope to win.
3) Watch Morten Frost in action on Youtube. Morten style was a little more defensive but he had a combination of skills that helped him win. He was fast, had the best consistent clear (this helps to bore your opponent – a good game plan), superb net game and superb defence.
4) When your opponent is attacking, watch for his next move after the smash. Does he move into the net in a straight line? If he does, you need to master blocking cross court and therefore away from the oncoming player. This forces him to change direction at the last second – very hard.
5) Learn to return shuttles deep into the forehand corner. Most players spend so much time developing ways to cover their backhand, they leave gaps in the deep forehand. Exploit it as it will eventually result in them moving their base over a little and opening their backhand side to attack.
Scotty, I hope this helps you when you next play this player. Let me know.
Paul

June 14, 2011
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Me and the guy [ his name is JD ] played 2 games. I tried more of a defensive play in the first game, using mostly drop shots and net shots, but i lost. In my second game I only just won, playing a bit more aggressively and did what you said in your first point Paul. He smashed all the ones that took a while to drop, mostly going in the net.

 

The main thing that I had trouble with was my backhand. I'm best at net shots with the backhand, my drop shots tend to go a bit high and not close enough to the net, but i guess that can be fixed with practice, but what I cannot do is clear it. Every time i get a backhand, my drops don't work because then JD takes complete control of the game. My clears often end up in his forehand smash, which are hard to get back. Can anyone suggest what to do when it lands right in the corner of my backhand. 

 

Cheers

Scott

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