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3:25 pm
September 20, 2011
Bought some Aerosensa 30 shuttles (speed 3) yesterday for our weekly social game of doubles as I had been harping on to the guys I play with how the nylon ones were rubbish and feathers are supposed to be much better.
Guess what? They hated them saying they were slow and that they had to hit them so much harder.
Were do I go from here in regard to what shuuttles to use?
1:57 pm
May 25, 2010
You have to remember, some people don't like change and on top of that, if they (the other people) know how much a feather shuttle is compared to a nylon as well as how long a feather shuttle would last compared to a nylon, then I think that they may go into trying the feather shuttles in a negative mind. For most people, once you have tried feathers, there's no going back. However, they may not wish to change their game or shots and or spend time adapting to the “new” shuttles. You could ask them to try again to see if they feel any differently, if not, just thank them for giving it a go, fair play
P.S. I don't think I could ever go back to nylon shuttles, makes me shudder even thinking about it, there are some new nylon shuttles that are supposed to be like feather shuttles, but they are hard to get hold of.
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8:38 pm
April 15, 2010
I fully agree with the points already made. It is what is cost effective and fun for you and your friends that matters most. The transition from nylon to feather can be tricky, I remember it taking me a couple of sessions to sort my timing out when I started to regularly play with feathers.
The only point I would raise is regarding your development as players. If you just want to play as a group then that's fine, but if you want to push on and play within a club or try some league matches, you will HAVE to play with feathers. Just something to bear in mind.
I notice you are showing as being in Crosby, I play at a club in Maghull that is open to all abilities and age groups. Feel free to PM me if you would like more details.
10:22 am
February 15, 2011
If the feather shuttles were slower than the plastic shuttles, it makes me question the shuttle speeds you’re using. Did you test them properly? If you’re not sure how to test shuttles then take a look at my video on the subject – it will help a lot.
Rob has made a very valid point. Whilst you’re playing as a group now, if you have aspirations to take up league badminton then you will need to get used to feather shuttles as very few leagues use plastic shuttles these days.
Without doubt feather shuttles expose poor technique, moreso than plastic shuttles. So, playing with feather shuttles can really help your game, even if this means understanding which areas you need to improve.
Paul
4:37 pm
October 25, 2010
cant imagine why they'd think feathers were slower, unless the plastic were the really fast type ( Red for Yonex, Paul ?) and then when they used “normal” speed feathers they are finding they need to hit harder.
There may be a few other things that may cause them to think feathers are slower than plastic, but they all come down to technique, and without making assumptions about your friends and thier level of play I wouldn't want to comment.
I found feathers hard to control after playing at a social club who only use plastics (during a break from competitive badminton.) But once you get a feel for feathers, and how little effort is required to generate power, and the beauty of the sound you get from really connecting with a feather, not sure it'd be possible to go back to nylon.
3:26 pm
February 15, 2011
I’ve written a lot in the past about incorrect shuttle speeds and how they are killing the game.
Most clubs still play with slow shuttles and are de-skilling the game. The players seem to feel that they must have a slower shuttle because it makes it easier to keep the shuttle in court. They continue to forget that the skill in this game is control under pressure. So their skills have dimished due to their inability to control the shuttle and find a good length.
If you watch pro players, there are two areas where more points are lost
1) hitting long beyond the rear court boundary
2) not clearing the net
So, even at the highest level a huge number of points are lost through hitting the shuttle out due to pressure to find a good length. So why should we be any different?
To sum up, please test the shuttle prior to playing and ensure, whenever you can that you play the game according to the rules. The correct shuttle speed falls within the rules of the game. Learn the rules and have more fun.
Paul
4:40 pm
January 17, 2012
I am intrigued at this shuttle speeds issue as well.
For example.. what shuttle speed do olympians use ?
Take Carlton shuttles for instance…..Their GT1 range.. which states ;
First grade feathers of the highest specification, as used in international events. Approved by the Badminton World Federation for international play. Speeds available 76, 77, 78, 79.
This implies that any of those speeds could be used in an olympic game but I cannot believe that before each game the contendors test the speeds time after time…. and what if the contendors do not agree with the speed selected ? Do they have to agree on a speed between the two ? What if one player wants speed 78 and the other speed 79 for instance? Do the players test the shuttles before the game ?
In football.. the match ball is defined to specific size and usually for an event (e.g a world cup), a specific ball is made.. does this also occur in badminton and if so, is a specific speed used ?
8:25 pm
March 2, 2010
Yep, I remember watching a match of Nathan Robertson (if I'm not mistaken it was still with Gail Emms, so some time ago), and he demanded a different shuttle speed. So off went the (service ?) judge, in search for some tubes of this speed. Then he tested, agreed, the opponents agreed, and the game started. No doubt this can be found on the youtube.
In Belgium, all levels of the provincial competition is played with feathers (the receiving clubs provides the provide the shuttles, from the approved list), national and international tournaments on the other hand are played with plastic in the D-level, ranked players all play with feathers. I can assure you, as long as you're not ranked, it is not easy always changing between plastic and feathers. Stupid rule, but little we can do.
All the best, ED
11:36 pm
February 15, 2011
Shuttles are tested by a player with an official before the tournament begins. They generally test 3 different speeds and choose the most appropriate.
Occasionally there are changes in the hall during the day and players have every right to re-test the shuttle and ask for a different speed although both pairs have to agree on this.
No doubt many of you have read my articles on incorrect shuttle speeds and how they kill the game, so you know I am pretty fanantical on this subject. It doesn't seem to make much difference though because clubs up and down the country are still using slow shuttles – a travesty but I will keep touching on the subject.
Paul
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