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10:59 pm
March 2, 2010
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Hi all;
I know this is part of the game, playing the weaker of the opponents, since I'm usually the weakest. But this is changing, and from time to time I start doing the same thing (you learn on the way to victory 
).
The serve thing, try it (in the club). If you're used to serve at the same rithm, the opposition will adjust to this rithm of course. So if you're well ahead, or want to try something different, try the 1-2-3-good serve. Or a few more, but I wouldn't go over 5 
. This tiny single second longer you take to serve might get them out of concentration. At least this sometimes works for me. I'm just trying to make my serve as unpredictable as possible. But perhaps you're right that this might not have any influence in higher leagues. In the club I do “evening sessions”, all matches I play I do the same serve, just for training. Like the T, backhand front corner, … All night long, but at a different pace. In competiton, I'll settle for experience.
But to get back on the cheating, I'm just glad I never really encountered this (knock on wood). So yeah, no merci for people who need cheating to win. I would really hate loosing a match I could have won !
Cheers, ED
12:17 am
April 4, 2010
Offline Thanks Matthew for the answer. I wouldn't have done anything that can show disrespect for my favourite sport haha. At least I know now what to answer to that kind of people if they want to argue.
Paul, if only my new partner can read what you've just written :”Serving is a matter of consistency and accuracy”, I would be in heaven. Unfortunately, he would never listen to me. However, our partnership won't last more than one tournament so for now, I don't give much importance.
What he's doing is that he changes his way of serving for each service. He can't properly use the backhand serve so he would rather go back with the forehand but none of them is good enough to even engage a rally. From time to time, a good service comes out but when we know how much the service is important in a game, can I really let things go like that.
Jonathan
11:38 am
October 25, 2010
Offline Matthew Seeley said:
Only stepping up to serve when your opponent feels ready, is perfectly acceptable. If they are not ready to receive your service, because they are talking to their partner or something similar, then just wait until everyone settles down, and step up to serve. It sounds like this is the way you work, and I think that is perfectly fine. However, if your opponent takes an unnecessarily long time to get ready, then there can be problems – are they deliberately doing it?
this was the problem, not matter how long I waited, he would only ready himself to recieve serve, once I was in position ready to serve. So each time, he would stand back waiting, until I stepped up and got in position to serve, if this makes sense ?
May not seem like a big deal, but I am used to the opposition readying themselves, then me getting ready, then serve.
This guy always made you wait, not matter what….
11:52 pm
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August 12, 2010
Offline Term,
In this situation, you should simply be the bigger person! set yourself up, then when he steps up to serve, feel free to take another moment to gather your thoughts, and then execute your serve. Observe his frustration as your perfect serve makes him dump his return in the net 🙂 I would imagine, his tactics may change! He might try to rush you into playing bad serves! This is the power of a truly excellent serve!
Matt
5:13 pm
March 2, 2010
Offline Congratiulations Math, you reached your centenial post ! That makes you the most productive contributer to this forum (besides our coach naturally).
Regarding the serve, look what Lee Hyo Jung (KOR) did in nearly all her matches in WD and XD on about all her opponents. She tried to put pressure on them by getting in position to serve, and when they were not ready stop, again getting into position, stop, getting into position until the opposition was ready to receive the serve. Whether this made any difference, I don't know, but it sure was sending a message to the other side of the court. It would defenetly work on my nerves if I had to play someone that takes ages to get ready to receive the serve.
Term, didn't you say you had to play them again by the end of this week ? If you did, how did it go ?
Cheers, ED
9:16 pm
February 15, 2011
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Matt
I'd like to add my congratulations and thanks too.
It's sad that so many players register for this forum and then do not contribute. The forum only exists as a means of communication between readers on my blog. It allows you to ask questions, vent your frustrations, and most important, help each other. I don't have all the answers and sometimes it's the answer given by another forum user that set's up my response. Sometimes, I don't need to say anything because players like Matt have already done such a great job.
I'd really love to see the forum grow this year. It can only be achieved through your contributions no matter how large or small. There was a time when I considered deleting the forum because of the inactivity. However, at the moment the forum is reasonably healthy and I'd much rather see if we can all contribute to making it the best badminton coaching forum on the internet.
My ultimate goal is to make my blog the best coaching/badminton blog on the internet and have in excess of 25,000 visits a month. We've a long way to go to achieve that, but with your help, your contributions, your suggestions for articles, we stand a chance of making this happen in 2011.
Paul
12:45 pm
October 25, 2010
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Ed said:
Congratiulations Math, you reached your centenial post ! That makes you the most productive contributer to this forum (besides our coach naturally).
Regarding the serve, look what Lee Hyo Jung (KOR) did in nearly all her matches in WD and XD on about all her opponents. She tried to put pressure on them by getting in position to serve, and when they were not ready stop, again getting into position, stop, getting into position until the opposition was ready to receive the serve. Whether this made any difference, I don't know, but it sure was sending a message to the other side of the court. It would defenetly work on my nerves if I had to play someone that takes ages to get ready to receive the serve.
Term, didn't you say you had to play them again by the end of this week ? If you did, how did it go ?
Cheers, ED
Hi Ed,
I thought we mite be playing them last week, as we were playing thier B team, and sometimes thier A players make up the numbers, as it happened they had a full B team ready for us. It didn't matter as we won 9 – 0 🙂
I think the key thing I'll take from this thread, is to try and not let it effect me, and also use a couple of little techniques of my own.
Matt, big thanks to your 1,2, good serve idea, I put it to good effect in one of our matches when my nerves were really getting to me.
On the whole my serve used to be a real weapon, now its terrible at best, I'd like to blame nerves, but I think possibly I just dont practice it enough. I'll look to change that within the coming weeks….
2:26 pm
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August 12, 2010
Offline Term: I played a match last night, and I got pretty nervous. It was 10 all in the third game… and it was our first match of the night. What we didn't realise, after watching our other pairs thrash their opposition, was that we were on against their best pair (put on as 3rd pair)… The nerves were high, it was a very scrappy game. Then I got to serve. We won 8 straight points. Three of those 8 were serves that my opponents left – short serves – that landed on the line. We won that game 21-12, and proceeded then, with new found confidence, to rip through the other pairings in very quick fashion!
Some of the serves I hit last night were ones even I wasn't sure were going in – they just looked too tight. They all landed in. Last night was a good serving night, and it changed the whole complexion of the match for us.
However, slightly annoyed that we were playing with very slow shuttles – I used a very heavy racket with very slack strings, and I was struggling to “test” the shuttle to a decent length. We used lots of attacking clears instead of smashes, but it still annoys me when I have to put up with them. I expect Paul will share my frustration!
Despite this, we won 9 – 0, and are currently sitting top of our league!
Keep practising those serves – I know I will!
Matt
10:40 pm
February 15, 2011
Offline Matthew
We've said it so many times about the importance of the serve. Once you get on a roll it's amazing how easy it can be to change a game. It then becomes a game of confidence and the pair making the least mistakes taking the game.
Sorry to see that you were also subject to a match with slow shuttles. I've lost count of the times this has happened. What amazes me is that nobody seems to care enough to do anything about it – very sad.
Congratulations on your win.
Paul
9:57 am
October 25, 2010
Offline The main frustration I have with gamesmanship is, it always tends to be a certain type of player, at the risk of making sweeping generalisations, it tends to be the men of a certain age or mindset, who've played for years but never been coached.
They do what they want, and do anything to win because they know at the base of it, thier game is not good enough to win through skill alone. What I find especially annoying is they seem to get away with it time after time, everyone knows about “dave and his dodgy serve” or “the guy in the white top calls it out when its in” or “you see that bloke there, never calls a swing or double hit”. If they're known for it, and they do this kinda of crap all the time, why does now one ever pull them up on it ? Because they've done it for years, and even if you did call them on it, it'd make very little difference, OR, you'd be classed as a “young'en with an attitude problem” and you're fighting an uphill battle against established “old men” clubs, who just dismiss your concerns, or will label you as a trouble maker.
I've a lot of frustrations regarding badminton at the moment, I've a steady and significant drop in form over the last year and I'm starting to wonder if I actually enjoy it anymore, and this kind of stuff really annoys me and is making it hard for me to sustain my interest in the sport.
*End rant
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