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Partners in badminton doubles
July 17, 2013
11:29 pm
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What makes a good partner?

How does a bad partner effect your game?

What would your ideal partner be like?

July 18, 2013
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My perfect partner is my regular mens doubles partner. He is very fast, has great defence, and hunts the shuttle at the net. He never makes any mistakes, and can hit winners when he tries. The pace of his smash is quite slow, but it doesn't matter, given the steep angles and great placement. For me, the movement and the defence and the consistency is what makes him a great partner. We can use our speed to overwhelm opponents, we build pressure by making no mistakes, getting there early and playing good shots, and there is no way their attack will get through either of us. Matt is happy 🙂

When my partner has a weak defence (its ok if they can defend from cross court, but if they can't do that, then its a problem), it creates a lot of pressure on us. I am naturally the kind of player that would rather lift high to the back line, than risk making a mistake on an impossible shot. If my partner can't defend the attack that follows this lift, then that is bad. Everything else is kind of a bonus in many ways. So I think my shopping list for a good partner, in order, is:

Good defence

Good Serve

Good frontcourt/midcourt attack

Good speed

Good rearcourt attack

Note, this is only a technical list, and doesn't consider tactical awareness, or personality etc.

A bad partner may or may not affect me, depending on what we mean by “bad”. Most of the time, partners and pairings have weaknesses, and we can overcome these. E.g. one guy I sometimes partner has great shots, but very limited movement going forwards or sideways. I can overcome these weaknesses through shot selection and my own speed of movement. If by “bad” you mean fundamentally not suited to playing with each other, this can be quite tricky. In these instances, I try to take every point as it comes, and fit in with my partners style of play, and put aside my own preferences. These games make me uncomfortable, but not inherently a problem.

Interested to see what everyone else's partner shopping list is!

July 18, 2013
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I like my partner to be tactically aware & stick to an agreed plan of attack

To have a partner with a good smash, who likes to play aggressively.

Be able to serve consistently well.

Physically fit & mobile that can cover the court.

Have a good defence. Then counter turning defence into attack.

So a bad partner for me is someone who doesn’t stick to a plan, for example don’t lift to the tall guy with a killer smash, when agreeing to channel attack they start cross courting the shuttle playing me out of the game.
I have mentioned previously that when a partner served 10 times into the net in one leg of a game.

Then there’s the player who tries flashy shots that don’t come off & gives away the momentum, especially when you ask them not to play those type of shots & play percentage shots.

Finally partners who cheat i.e. when calling shuttles hitting the line out.

July 18, 2013
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How this effects my game- last season after having 8 different partners, 4 captains. This meant no continuity.
I paid to play & expect to have a partner to be of a standard for playing in the league, especially after paying fellow work mates to swap shifts so I can play in the matches.

The knock on effect of this was a loss of my form & confidence. This led to a bit of a downward spiral.

Now after receiving Paul’s incite & thoughts, I now challenge myself & try & play for my partner, try not to show negative facial expressions or body language . Which I must admit I’m still working at & it’s hard as I’m ultra competitive.
I don’t even like losing games on club nights

July 18, 2013
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In every situation there is the opportunity and possibility for improvement. But you have to be aware in order to recognise and respond accordingly.

 

What do I want in a partner? I'll happily defend or dominate the net so as long as my partner can serve, return well and keep the shuttle down, or a good length I'm fine.

 

We will all make mistakes on court and do something we shouldn't so we need to ensure we accpet that of our partner.

 

Darren's example of the 10 serves in the net would be a situation whereby i would chat to my partner. I would take the half way point to discuss serving. But, only on the basis I was serving well.

 

Paul

July 18, 2013
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What makes a good partner?

Somebody who enjoys the sport of badminton.  Good communicator & have awareness of our abilities as a team and act accordingly. 

How does a bad partner effect your game?

It just makes me cranky and want to walk out on the jerk mid-game. For me, bad means bad manners, not in terms of technical abilities. I dropped in to play a game in Vancouver, B.C. and it was my first time there. I had this complete stranger bossing me around like it was an important game. I thought, “man, this is only a community centre, we are not going anywhere”

 

Thanks for reading

May

July 18, 2013
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Well said May.

I take it that you were a guest at that club. To treat guests in that manner is appauling.

Having good partners is not all about league play. If you conduct yourself well on a club night you should gain the respect of all the players.

The best player in my league club is an absolute beast in a match, very demanding of himself and his partner. No one is more focused or has a greater will to win. On club nights he is the most generous player on court. He is non judgemental to his partners, whatever their standard, and plays for them and the love of the game. My perfect partner both in skill and attitude.   

July 18, 2013
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What I think is missing at some clubs is a really good welcoming team. Whenever a stranger visits a club, it's up to the club to make them feel very welcome, get to know a few people and enjoy the night, regardless of their standard. Yes, if the player is almost a beginner, then it's difficult. but if the club sets up a system whereby visitors contact them first, hopefully you will be able to point the beginner in the right direction.

 

I walked into a number of clubs not knowing anybody and them not knowing me. It's been amazing how many times I've barely been spoken to until I've been on court.

 

Paul

July 23, 2013
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For me, a good serve and an understanding of the game are vital components.

I recently went to a good standard club, full of county squad members. I was partnered with a guy who, in his day, was a fantastic player, but is starting to decline in recent years due to a lack of speed, power and reaction time. We were put against a young, high standard, very quick and relatively powerful pair…but we wiped the floor with them!

I wish I had that game recorded because it was tactically one of the best games I have ever played, and I've never played with this guy in my life. He was consistent, and his shot selection was perfect – never going for anything too risky – allowing our opponents to make mistakes or me to hit a winner. 

I'm on the lookout for a  tournament partner and if I see a younger player in the same mold I will definitely be inquiring as to their weekend availability Laugh

September 20, 2013
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An interesting topic.

Coming from the viewpoint of a lower level league player, what I would look for in a partner above all are consistency and positional awareness as well as a good low serve and decent return.

Not necessarily looking for a partner with blistering power (but it would be nice) but more someone who can place the shuttle in good positions and create chances to kill the shuttle. A person with a positive playing attitude who can keep calm and assess the situation. Someone I can discuss changes and tactics with mid game who will not feel like it is some kind of recrimination.

I find it difficult to play with people who are constantly critical and/or unadaptable to changing situations. Also players that try over exuberant shots that create lots of errors are difficult as at my level most of our games are won by the team that make less errors.

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