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5:37 pm
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December 4, 2010
Has any of the forum members got any tips for playing with plastics shuttles. Ie ideal string tension. Best shots to play? Shots not suitable for playing with plastics? My team recently lost a relegation decider to a team who play with plastics. The team to whom we beat comfortably at home with feathers. Think you can tell I don’t like playing with plastic shuttles as the flight & touch just isn’t there. If I had my way there would be a league feathers & a league for plastics. I look forward to reading your thoughts.
8:32 pm
November 3, 2013
Damn the forum has been quiet for a while.
Roughly your string tension should be:
Tension in plastic^1.04=Tension you play with feather
Differences: Plastic starts off slower, but hardly slows down. Plastics don’t degrade so you can assume the shuttle stays fine.
Drop slices lose most of its effectiveness. (Net slices still work) Use tap smashes instead for drop shots.
Smashes become overpowered. Fairly strong people can hit plastic at a speed comparable (if not faster!) than world class players with feather.
Two careful things to note:
Your clears must go up higher.
Your blocks must be used with less power.
11:40 am
February 15, 2011
If I was playing a match with plastic shuttles I would drop my tension to 18/19lbs.
I would pay attention to the feel of the shuttle in the knock up concentrating on clears, drops, smashes, net shots and serve. The intention is by covering all of these shots as a pair, I am able to practice my defence and attack without giving too much away.
I would then play a simple game whereby I focused on setting up my partner by playing them into the game. The block to the net is important in defence so I really want this to work. As usual. I’d follow it in and apply pressure at the net.
Delivering a decent drop shot, faster smash are important too. I’d cut out any kind of slice action until I was happy with the other shots. I would then test it in another knock up before bringing it into play.
Generally I’d play my shots to gauge the flight of the shuttle in the knock up. I would then adjust if required to ensure I can keep the shuttle in. This may mean hitting clears higher but could be I need to hit them lower.
Paul
4:06 pm
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December 4, 2010
Thank you for your thoughts Paul & Alex, my racket was strung at 25lbs & only recently strung. I think yet again my frustration got the better of me, turning up wth the wrong attitude didn’t help. Hence my muscles & grip tightened up. Funnily enough we won the first match. But then I was sure the 2nd pair was cheating saying shuttles we’re going out the back as well as my team mates. Re Paul’s comment re string tension maybe that’s why I couldn’t get any power, as well as the tight muscles & grip, as it seemed you couldn’t kill it. Then if you played a clear they called it out. I couldn’t get the shuttle to slice like I can with feathers. But next year I will go with a positive mind set, keeping relaxed and as mentioned keep it simple.
12:58 am
November 3, 2013
Well cheating or emotions it’s hard to keep a lid on, and I guess we can’t advise on. Arguing about points is one of the two things I don’t like with competitive badminton, the other being piling all the hate on the weaker player in order to win.
In my previous post I said plastics don’t slow down as much and clears are more likely to go out, so they gotta have a higher trajectory. They could very well be right on that claim.
The tension Paul plays with is in my opinion waaaaay too low. Imagine 19lb on a bg65 string after a month of playing. You’ll literally have the same amount of power no matter how hard you try to swing it. I’ve tested it on a racket of my friend, and it’s like…If you use little power, you get more than you expect, but if you use a lot of power, most of the power dissipates. Assuming you use 25 tension for feather, 22 for plastic is reasonable.
10:51 am
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August 12, 2010
Useful comments from others. I personally have spent a long time growing up and playing with plastics, so am not bothered by them.
The main things to bear in mind are:
1. Test the shuttle – do not play with a slow plastic, you will hurt yourself!
2. You need to hit harder in the direction you want the shuttle to go – hit through your power shots more. It takes more energy to get the shuttle going, but it will travel like a rocket when it does.
3. Plastic shuttles “crumple” spectacularly when hit, and then “fluff up” again after a while. This is the opposite observation to the one Alex gave so be careful. Some plastics do it more than others. This roughly translates into plastics moving like bullets, and then suddenly slowing down and remaining in. Some plastics are worse than others. I only trust Yonex plastic shuttles, and only some of them.
4. Smashing is good. Plastic shuttle are made for smashing because they crumple. Hit it right, and the shuttle will become a rocket. Just smash it hard and flat – nobody will be able to do much with it.
5. Do not try to slice the shuttle – it doesn’t do much. Use fast clipped drops instead of slices.
6. Do not try to tumble the shuttle at the net – it doesn’t do much. Easier to play a simple net shot.
Good luck!
10:54 pm
February 15, 2011
As Matt says, plastic shuttles act differently to feathers. I grew up using an assortment of plastic shuttles and would agree with Matt.
Hitting plastic shuttles requires a different mindset. Cut out the more detailed shots such as spins and slices and simply keep the shuttle in play. Be careful with shuttle speeds otherwise injuries will occur and these can take months to repair. As the saying goes, you stroke a feather and thump a plastic. So, shuttle speed is vital to be able to thump it well.
By all means test a string tension that suits you. However, for me I would not go beyond 22lbs. That said, I know a players that plays mainly with plastic shuttles and he strings his rackets over 30lbs. My personal preference is to allow the strings to play a bigger role in the power of the shot and I’ll take care of the control around the net, bearing in mind I on’t be spinning the shuttle. Thankfully I can choose not to play with plastic shuttles and therefore avoid them.
Paul
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