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5:17 pm
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12:16 pm
April 15, 2010
Bounce by Mathew Syed is a really good read that discusses various elements of sports psychology. It's not really a 'self help' book, although it could be read as such, but a look at different techniques and mechanisms used by top athletes across a number of different sports. There are also a number of really good stories around current top sports men and women, such as Roger Federer and the Williams sisters, who Syed has actually spoken with as he was Englands top table tennis player for a number of years.
There is also a very interesting piece on drug use in sport with some opinions that are not quite as black and white as you might imagine.
The main concept that I like though is that talent is a myth. No such thing. If you want to be a top performer in any field, you need 10,000 hours of meaningful practice, there is no shortcut.
12:59 pm
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December 4, 2010
Has anyone played a game where you win the the first game 21 – 2 then lose the next game? Or played in a game where you are sure the other team have called a good shot out? Then play aggressive & lose more points?
When warming up with a partner before a match when practicing return of serve do you agree to serve the 3 / 5 serve as a flick, to give the impression you can read & get back fast to a flick serve.
If you lost the first game & poorly do you take a toilet break to slow down the opponents momentum?
What do you do before a game to prepare yourself?
Would really like to read & hear about other people’s use of psychology within the game.
8:46 pm
March 2, 2010
Nope, the opposite. Lost the first tremendously, and then playing extensions. Agree with those 10KH of training. That's also not where I would think talent would make a difference. One would need 1000 shots to master a perfect drop, the other needs 10 shots. IMHO, that's where talent makes a difference.
Cheers, ED
11:59 am
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August 12, 2010
Ed: I used to agree with you about talent. Talented people pick things up quicker than on talented people. However, the research done suggests that, where we think its 1000 vs 10 repetitions, it is actually 1000 vs 990 repetitions. The “talented” individual has also done loads of practice. People with good hand eye coordination seem to pick things up quicker than others, but the point is, that in order to “perfect” the shot, takes more or less the same amount of effort – and that amount is ALOT! The only thing that “talent” dictates, is how much better their first effort is than an “untalented” person, and not the final potential or how long it takes to achieve it.
Dobbie: When I am playing matches, I do not use any of the psychological elements you have talked about e.g. warming up to give the illusion you are good at something, taking a toilet break to disrupt an opponent etc. I do not need to stop my opponents or deceive them. I will beat them regardless. That is the attitude I take on to court.
I have played good sets followed by losing or nearly losing the follow up sets. This is sometimes because my partner starts taking it easy on our opponents, and their lack of intensity stops me from playing my hardest. Once I have lost this focus, getting it back again is very difficult. I sometimes stop trying as hard because I am physically tired. This allows opponents back into the match, and leaves me with a lot of work to do. Grumble grumble grumble.
When I play matches, my goal is to completely ignore my opponent. I am entirely focused on my own technique, and trying to understand the game as it unfolds.
However, there are some things that really get the better of me psychologically, but it is never to do with my opponent, it is usually to do with my partner.
If I go on court with a weak partner, against two average players, I become very demoralised very quickly. I expect to win, because my opponents are not good enough to beat me. I will usually get a 5 or 6 point lead at the start of the game. After this initial burst, I will not see the shuttle again all evening. This results in me playing badly, and becoming very moody, which, as you can imagine, is not helpful for my partner. The real trouble comes in that there is often nothing I can say to this partner to help them, leaving me feeling powerless, and my partner feeling negative. They are usually unable to think about tactics, and unable to implement them. Simple things like lifting cross court to keep the attack focused on me are beyond them, and I spiral down into a dark mood. Most of this dark mood is at my perceived inability to change the way this game is being played.
It is sometimes worse when I go on with a strong partner against two strong opponents, and my partner again refuses to play tactically. They fall into the same traps over and over. This is a more difficult scenario as there is often very little I can say without sounding like a “know it all”. Im probably not playing that well either.
Of course, these scenarios can be avoided by playing with a regular partner, rather than standing in. I don't have any problems with my regular partners, as we understand and respect each others games 🙂
4:16 pm
May 25, 2010
Matt, you beat me to it. I was thinking of the same thing after reading Ed's post. I agree that there are talented people, but they still need to put in the hours and time into doing the shots. Sure it helps, but for those less talented, there is also hope that you can keep practising and match the talented lot, it's possible. I also don't think that you say how many times they need to do it to perfect it (if there is such thing), as each person is different. It's up to each person to know what they respond to best and the best way to get the best out of themselves.
I don't generally use anything to try and break my opponents mind set, either because I am naive or to nice or whether I just don't pick up on things like that. I like to beat people fair and square and there's too much going on in my head regarding MY performance!
From reading your last part of your post Matt, it does sound worse that the situation actually is, but I do get where you are coming from (or like to think that I do). Although this may sound daft as I haven't read the book yet, but I recommend buying the the Chimp Paradox book. And it's under a tenner so worth a punt. But it might help you when playing with your non-normal partners. I do get that your partners know how you work etc etc, but there must be something that you can change that might help.
I do know, that some times the slightest things seem to make me lose a bunch of points. Whether I'm aware of the cause or not. I can be winning “too easily” and subconsciously back off or go for too many “show” shots rather than winning the point (and if you have seen my “show” shots, you know the outcome, epic fail! ). Or something could be distracting me.
I have ordered my copy of the book (the Chimp Paradox) on the weekend. I also took the time before buying in reading some reviews (saw someone's review from here on there ) and I also took advantage of Amazon's look-inside feature and have read a fair few pages already and like what I am reading. Some people don't “get” the book, but for most, the way it has been layed out make it simple ish for you to follow the idea. I have already thought on a few occasions since the weekend about keeping my inner chimp quiet and when to let the inner chimp speak. So it must have had an effect on me already. I can't wait for the book to arrive but I got it on super saver delivery so it'll be at least a week!
But I've got a feeling that this might be one of those books that I will find hard to put down, which is saying a lot for a non book reader.
I think there is one “enemy” on the court that you need to tackle before anything else. It's not your opponents, it's not your partner. It's not even the empire (if you have one)! It's you. You can have a cut on your finger and it will effect your game. It effects your game because YOU let it effect your game. It's easier said than done though. A bit like watching a video for a shot and thinking, I can do that, but when it comes to it, it's very difficult to master.
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5:56 pm
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August 12, 2010
I have already ordered “Ahead of the game” 🙂
With regard to partners, it is only a few people that I tend not to play well with. I can play with most players fine (but thats because they play a tactically sound game). Any player that plays a relatively traditional doubles game will be a pleasure to partner, whether I have met them before or not. Unfortunately, there are some players I do not “gel” with, because I do not understand their style of play. To me, it doesn't make sense as it seems completely ineffective. I will usually ask them what I can do differently, and the “we need to make fewer mistakes” tactic gets really boring really quickly. Hopefully I will learn how to adapt my game, but it is tough to do so when there is no “plan”.
We will see, in time, how a bit of reading will help my game 🙂
7:24 pm
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December 4, 2010
It’s good to read people’s comments, and to know its just not me that gets angry, confused, fed up with partners that don’t seem to follow the game plan, even if you repeatedly discuss the tactics. I have really enjoyed reading the chimp paradox, glad I spent the money as I can relate to the simplified teachings.
Would like to hear Matthews thoughts on the book ahead of the game.
11:09 pm
February 15, 2011
Very interesting comments on this thread.
The difficulty whenever your partner is having an off day or they are unable to compete tactically at your level is that you lose focus. When you're demoralised or angry you fail to compete on your terms. This means you're as susceptible to mistakes as your partner.
Using the phrase “we need to make less mistakes” is almost counter-productive. You would do better to reconsider the use of this phrase and replace it with something more positive like “we need to keep the shuttle in play at all times.”
When professional players are having an off day and their opponents are too far ahead in a game, what do they do? They keep the shuttle in play. Why? Simply to find a way of steadying the ship and to build for the following game. The focus has now changed and so has the pattern of the game. No longer are they fighting to win the point early. Instead they re-think, find their length and stop taking risks.
The problem when you lose focus is that key elements of your game slip, which in turn gifts more easy points to your opponents.
As many players will testify, whenever I go on court, regardless who I am playing against, the net is mine. It's always been mine, will remain mine throughout the game and I accept occasionally my opponent will play an outstanding shot which may result in a point – although rarely when I am at the net. This is not an arrogant viewpoint, it is one i have developed and will not allow to be dented in any way at any time.
Because of this, I always have a point from which to build. So, virtually every other point I will be facing a serve or will be serving. Therefore I have the opportunity to impose my will and tactics at that stage in the game. If I allow the whole game situation to effect my mindset, I am losing the one advantage I carry onto court all the time.
Everything that happens around the net, in my domain, allows me to to set up a chance for my partner. I must therefore focus on doing what I must to create tactical advantage. Even if my partner is unable to put the shuttle away, I can be happy with my contribution to the game. By staying alert I may find that my best shots provide necessary relief for us both and allow me to almost sneak a few winners by taking the sitters mid court.
If I overstretch myself by trying to get in on every point when the shot is clearly my partners, I run the risk of being completely out of position and therefore create more openings for my opponents and making myself look as bad as my partner. My job is therefore to continually encourage and create the tactics which bring me into the game as often as allowed by the opposition or my return.
I always teach that the net area in the final frontier in terms of tactical advantage. Master this and you are always in with a chance of picking up cheap points. The other area is a cast-iron serve. How often do we hear from professional players being interviewed that they comment on the importance of serving well and dominating the net – point made.
I read with interest the debate over talent. History is full of talented individuals in sport who made it. They had that something extra that cannot be coached. To use football as an example, coaches will tell you that what George Best was able to do in his heyday was virtually uncoachable. He had that something extra. At the other end of the scale there are players I have been asked to coach that had no mechanical fluency whatsoever. Players like them, no matter how many hours spent on court, would never make the grade.
There is always a middle ground where there is a combination of ability mixed with application. I have worked with talented kids with no application and those not so talented in terms of natural ability but they were prepared to work and get it right. Occasionally I could sum up these people in the way they practiced…
One player would practice until they got it right.
The other would practice until they couldn't get it wrong.
When you think about these two phrases you can see they are worlds apart. This is what I believe creates some of the greatest sporting legends in past, present and future. This dogged determination and total commitment to strive for perfection and they will do it regardless of circumstances.
I remember the story about Michael Jordan as a youngster when he was small. He came home one day in tears. When his mother asked why he was crying he said the other boys wouldn't allow him to play basketball because he was too small for the game.
She took him to one side and said that it wasn't the size of him in the game that mattered but the size of the game inside him.
That conversation was one of the biggest, if not THE biggest turning points in his life. This inspired him to practice and the rest they say is history.
So, I am a believer in talent but there is talent on so many levels. In some activities you can overcome by the quality of practice with the right mindset. In others you can't.
Practice has to be of the highest quality. I've heard time and again players saying that practice makes perfect. This argument is flawed. If I was learnig golf and did not practice to get every element of my swing correct, then all I am doing is grooving a bad swing. Whilst I will hit the ball more consistently, I will not be able to hit the ball perfectly.
The phrase should be “perfect practice makes perfect.” This means breaking down each element in the sequence and rebuilding until the technique is perfect. This is something we strive for at Lilleshall although there isn't the time to go into too much detail on every subject and correct everything. We therefore still take the same approach, although fix the biggest weaknesses in each players technique. So we manage to complete the first stage in this multi-stage process of creating the perfect technique. That's why some players return so that we can build on the early work and help them reduce errors further by focussing on other pieces in the puzzle that remain an issue.
Of course, all of this is subjective but I think history constantly reminds us that out of the ordinary, occasionally somebody rises to the top and becomes extraordinary. Was it talent that got them there? Partly, and the rest was mindset, outside help and maybe a touch of destiny.
Paul
11:36 pm
May 25, 2010
So, could we say that there is actually a talent in practising? The talent is that you keep driving on? After all, this could possibly be considered as a skill?
Nice story about Michael Jordan by the way.
If you could pick yourself a talent, what talent would you pick?
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