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Psychological Aspects of the game
June 25, 2013
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Matthew Seeley
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Peter Warman said:

So, could we say that there is actually a talent in practising? The talent is that you keep driving on? After all, this could possibly be considered as a skill?

This is THE skill that sets apart the good players from the great players.

 

If I could have any one talent, it would be better motivation, dedication and application.

June 25, 2013
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I agree with the comments about practice being a master skill.

 

The decision to practice hard, often and under the belief that quality counts, this begins to set aside the winners over the also rans.

 

As the saying goes “there are two types of pain in the world. The pain of self discipline and the pain of regret. One weighs ounces whilst the other weighs tonnes.”

 

Only the rare few will transcend the ordinary and become top of the world class. Inevitably, this is a result of the combination of talent, practice and a superior mindset.

 

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June 25, 2013
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I love the phrase train hard fight easy, think the problem for most club players is getting a good person to train with or the availability of a coach. Club players don’t even hit up properly on a club night. Take the serve, I watched people hitting up last club night & I was the only one who took myself off with a handful of shuttles to practice my serve. Come the match their serves are attacked & then the player is under pressure & game falls apart, the next game they serve a few in the net the psychological pressure builds! This what happened last season in a league match with 10 serves into the net in one game. So I believe if you pressurise your shots come the match you will be more prepared & not a rabbit caught in the headlights.

June 26, 2013
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On the subject of practice the old saying is “practice makes perfect”. I was told by a very good coach that “ony perfect practice makes perfect”. And when you think about it's vital to make sure that your technique spot on to begin with, rather than the very difficult job of having to change later.As Paul said quality counts.

June 26, 2013
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Rogerh said:

I was told by a very good coach that “only perfect practice makes perfect”.

Was that coach Paul? 😉 He said the same thing earlier in the thread. Great minds.

I have heard another version which is “practice makes perfect what you practice”. And another, which is slightly different… “Practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect, so why practice?” haha.

However, I must say that, although practising correct technique is imperative, there must be a point at which this is detrimental. Think of a beginner who is just learning to hit clears. You would start them with SOME good basics (grip, turning sideways etc), but you wouldn't expect them to start using a scissor kick, having their weight in the correct place etc etc.

Is it fair to say that a player must reach a certain level before they are capable of focussing on technique to this standard. OR, is it just the nature of this country, that we let players play before they get it right. In a video on youtube, Fu Haifeng states that he shadowed the perfect action for a smash for 2 months before he was allowed to hit a shuttle. Maybe that is what separates the best from the rest? Oooooooh… Discuss!

June 26, 2013
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Matthew Seeley said:

In a video on youtube, Fu Haifeng states that he shadowed the perfect action for a smash for 2 months before he was allowed to hit a shuttle. Maybe that is what separates the best from the rest?

 

See, now that actually makes sense. If you had never played before, and you do all that shadow work for that long, once you do use shuttles, it's going to seem the normal way to hit the shuttle and move and it would minimise bad habits creeping in.

 

But how many of us could do that though? And I can't see English kids doing that on their own accord, you'd have to push them into doing it but they might lose interest very quickly if you did. As someone who plays badminton, you can obviously see the long term goal and the benefits but if you were a child just starting out, it hardly makes the game appealing to you in a way? But maybe this is how countries like China get ahead of everyone else as this sort of training is more the norm for them? But then it could look like that but maybe it is not just that, that makes them stand out, it's just the fact that they have so many players coming through and there might be a lot of not so good players?

 

Interesting!

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June 26, 2013
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No doubt some of you are aware of the visualisation undertaken with sportspeople over the years. One of the stories is about a group of basketball players in USA. A team of basketball players were split into those that just practised and those that practised and also took part in visualisation sessons. needless to say, the group that undertook the additional lessons outperformed the other group considerably.

 

This is about the mind playing back the feeling of “taking the shot” and playing perfectly. This is then stored in the brain and brought into recall when called upon to play the shot physically. This is a similar situation with shadowing as the brain is being asked to store information regarding the technical and physical aspects of a shot without having the feedback of the shot itself.

 

Sadly, we have to realistic and agree that it would be an exceptional person in UK who spent 2 months shadowing a shot before actually playing it. It seems that our culture is losing the patience and discipline to become a master of anything these days. Maybe if our families living circumstances depended on it, then there would be more focus.

 

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June 27, 2013
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Great thread and some really interesting comments.

I have the pleasure of coaching U15 and U13 development players (these are players who have been invited to develop their skills and might possibly go on to the County team). You would think they are highly motivated and keen to practice. Not so!

Mostly they just want to play. We have to structure the sessions to be short and sharp and interspersed with playing games. Following a recent tournament we had a feedback session based on the notes/observations I and the head coach made. Based on these we focused in on a couple of specific shots that appeared to be letting them down. First up was the clear. We asked them to practice – watched by us and given advice on technique etc. After about 10 minutes we stopped and tried to illicit some feedback (often difficult with a young group!!). Once the head coach had finished I asked the group a question. I asked who thought it was boring? I knew the answer before I asked it…so I reminded them of the need to practice and the need to make sure that that practice is perfect. Think I wasted my breath.

Seems to me that everyone wants a quick fix and few are prepared to work hard to achieve great results.

June 28, 2013
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John said:

Seems to me that everyone wants a quick fix and few are prepared to work hard to achieve great results.

Great comments John. I only wish I had the time and money to do this kind of training…

June 28, 2013
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Thanks Matthew.

I wish I had the opportunity when I was younger! I hope I don't come across as negative of the group – they are a great bunch and they can play well (much better than me!!). It is just about passion to succeed and energy. Even as the years take their toll on me I will still give 110% effort and enthusiasm to training or playing – why give anything less?

One of the reasons I am training to be a coach is quite selfish…it helps me improve my game! I only started playing badminton less than 2 years ago. I now play for two clubs (Friday and Sunday) and have been selected for the league team at my primary club. I play two open sessions each week (with intermediate and advanced/league players) on Monday and Wednesday. Straight after my Monday session I go to a different venue to help coach the kids and I have now been asked if I would join the coaching staff at our County HQ to help with the junior County players on a Saturday. So it is a big part of my life – good job my wife plays too!! But yes it is costly – I provide my help for free because I want to give something back to the community and in return I get some great free advice and training. I am also passionate about getting more children into badminton; it would be great to have an British player as world number one…one day…one day.

I have loads to learn and find this forum an invaluable resource – especially Paul's articles. So keep posting folks. Laugh

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