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so paul asked me to post this question to see what responses came back.
December 11, 2013
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its my first year playing in the league and im having a little trouble with the mixed. 

my first partner is old school and rarely leaves the net. my second partner is happier to play a levels style.

my problem is firstly what shots should i play most, to get the ladies more dominent in the game.

& secondly how the *^$%^ am i supposed to cover that much court when we r in defence?!

December 11, 2013
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Hi Nee

Good post.

You say that your one partner is happier to play a level doubles style. My question to you is how effective is she at playing this role. I watched a MD match last week and one of the women adopted this tactic but was clearly not strong enough and continually put her partner in trouble.

At all levels of the game very few women can consistently win a rally from the back of the court so the tactic is to get them to the fore court at every opportunity. Skill rather than strength is required for net play and a partner who is dominant on the net wins you MD games.

Drives and smashes down the tramlines to mid court will put the opposition under pressure. If you do drops make sure they're steep, accurate and tight with some pace and wide to the front player. Try to keep most shots straight and clears down to a minimum.

You'll find that if your partner has confidence in your shots then being at the net is not a problem. If you're dollying shots up to be smashed down then they're not so keen,and who can blame them.

The obvious answer to court coverage is footwork and fitness but, as this is your first competitive year, try and anticipate the shots as much as you can.

It would be great to hear from some MD women players for their views.                

December 12, 2013
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There are lots of questions before we decide what to do. For example, What do you find easier? Dominating the rear of the court with your partner picking up the net, or working as a level partner? How strong are the partners at their roles? Is the level partner able to cope from the rear and with the man opposite smashing hard at her? Is the net player red hot at the net and you have total confidence in her? Would she be a hindrance stepping back?

Of course the ideal answer is you level player needs some coaching to step forward into the net in a positive way and take control of the front of the court when the chance arises. Over the years you tend to find the “older” ladies are happy to step into the net when required and stay there. They are generally good at the net, through years of practice and it's your job, not only to try and win the point, but also keep them safe; no dolly ups at the net for the opposition to smash at them!

The simple truth is, if it's not working, you need to change your tactics and this can only happen if you work as a pair and talk about it. If the level partner is getting pummelled at the back of the court and you're losing every game, it's not fun for either of you and things need to change. Ask her to “try” going into the net. If it works and you start winning points then, although it may be strange to her to be at the net, “it works!”.

Getting your net partner to take more of an active role I would imagine would be more difficult. Why would she want to come away from her “safe” net position where she's stood for years, just to get smashed at? If that's what you want her to do, then you are going to have to suggest it. However, when I was young and fit (many years ago), having a lady who was confident at the net and stayed there was the lesser of two evils and I worked around it. Any lift were really deep and were kept to a minimum. Drives, quick drops to the spaces and smashes, hard at the woman opponent were the order of the day, to make her back off the net and allow my partner to dominate and kill the shuttle.

It will never be perfect, otherwise you'd win every game, but doubles is ALL about working as a team to win the point. Use your strengths, exploit the opponents weakness. I could go on and on but without actually seeing the circumstances and the strengths and weaknesses of you and your partner I'll stop there……

December 12, 2013
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There is an element of cause and effect here.

 

The fact that Nee is playing with two styles of player is one thing but the issue is that their preferences for where and how they defend differ. So the cause is of course the fact that Nee must be lifting which opens up the question where is he lifting the shuttle? If he placing deep into the corner which always encouages a lady into the net, or is the shot inconsistent and travelling towards the centre of the court when in fact this creates a requirement for deeper defending by the lady who is then not cross court as we would like and actually taking a straight smash.

 

The other comments raised are just as valid too, but at this stage we are not sure the outcome of the smash at either lady. It may be it's confusing because they position themselves differently.

 

Nee is of the opinion that he thinks he is covering virtually a full court when he lifts. The truth is he should be covering his half and a possible clear to the other half of the court which his lady should leave unless she is stronger than him.

 

It's already been said but the main objective is to ensure the shuttle is hit downwards as often as possible but that's not always possible. A good length clear can be just as effective if it's accurate.

 

There could be alot more mileage in this post yet…

 

Paul

December 12, 2013
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Yes indeed Paul,

We now need to know how Nee is losing points. Smashes at the lady, smashes in general, out of position for drops or clears. Where are the weaknesses?

As you've touched on it, the punch clear as an attacking shot is so overlooked. If played well and at the right time, it opens up the court brilliantly!!

December 17, 2013
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