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the return of serve in MD and XD
December 31, 2012
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Hello,

This is my first real post here with an actual question 🙂 

I am playing socially about 3 times a week and I usually play MD or XD and I would like to ask about the return of serve. As Paul has stated at various times on this site the serve and return of serve are very important and key to winning valuable points so I want to improve in this area. When playing MD or XD I usually receive low backhand serves but occasionally flicks or high forehand serves. When I receive a low backhand serve I usually go for the net kill or I clear to either one of the corners but I really want to improve and vary my returns of low backhand service in order that I do not become to predictable and to gain tactical advantage in the game.

I would really appreciate your help: what are the different types of shots should I be using when receiving low backhand serves in order to gain tactical advantage in the game? Any thoughts, tips and advice are welcome!

Graham

December 31, 2012
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I have the same issue as you. I always lift the shuttle for low backhand and always have trouble with receiving flicks. Can you please give me some advice as to what I can do to help me receive serves? 

December 31, 2012
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When I receive my first serve, I always play an aggressive shot ( right or wrong).My aim is to make their serve fall apart.

I like to mix up my returns depending on where the opponents are standing, whether they are left or right handed & if they look switched on.

I play returns to both opponents body, drop the shuttle just over the net towards the corner, mid court tramlines between the players & drives to the rear corners, if a player has a bad backhand I'll clear & wait to pounce on the return.

when returning flick, I do my best to make sure I'm behind the shuttle & smash to severs pocket or chest, mix it up with a drop shot & an occasional clear.

The way I learnt was to attend Paul's training weekends, you won't look back & the look on your club members face when you return to your club is priceless.

I returned back to my club after training & the shuttle was like a football,even if the shuttle was skimming the net.

December 31, 2012
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Thanks Darren for your comment and endorsing my coaching weekends.

 

Many times a simple net return and pressure the server but create a lift return and give you the attack. If you watch most top players they use either net return or mid court push. It's rare they lift on a return.

 

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January 2, 2013
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Thanks for the great advice, I will try this out on Friday night and I am sure I will get great results!

Graham

January 2, 2013
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Mens doubles is relatively straightforward.
You can stand as far forward as possible, while still being able to deal with a flick serve. Obviously if you can kill a loose serve, you *always* should. Otherwise, you should play either a drop (straight or away from the server), a midcourt push to the tramlines, or a flat drive to the rear corners. Mix up your shot selection, but if you find one return is particularly effective then keep going back to it more often.
Don't lift unless you get badly caught out by a flick serve.

Mixed doubles is a little more complicated.
When the lady is serving, you can be more aggressive and stand further forward. At lower levels of play it's often possible to intimidate the lady into making a lot of mistakes (sorry to be sexist, but I think it's true). Bear in mind that if you're just playing socially, this isn't considered very gentlemanly conduct (don't expect to get her phone number after the game).
When the man (or a good lady) is serving, it's usually a good idea to stand further back and play slightly less aggressive returns. This means you won't always be able to kill slightly loose serves, but it also means you'll be in a better position to deal with the next shot. Otherwise if the opponents hit the shuttle behind you, you either have a long way to go to reach it, or your partner has to take it, which puts you in your weakest formation (with the lady at the back and the man at the front). Also, the man will be serving from further back in the court, so his serves will be flatter.

Shot selection also depends to some extent on who is serving. If the lady is serving, midcourt pushes to the tramlines are usually the most effective shot, as it brings the man forward and to one side (and also causes some confusion over who should take the shot). You can then follow that with a shot into the rear corner furthest from the man, which either he will take (in which case he may be late getting to it) or the lady will (in which case you have forced them into their weakest formation, with the lady at the back). For this reason, the midcourt push is also a good shot to play during rallies. As always, some variation in shot selection is still important.
If the man is serving, drives may be more effective than pushes. Assuming the server's partner is standing just left of the “T”, and he is also quite a long way forward, that leaves a lot of space behind them to hit into. Even if they're in level doubles formation (the lady not by the “T”), a shot to the rearcourt will still force / keep them in their weakest formation.

There are two key points to mixed. The first is disrupting the opponents' formation – try to get the lady at the back, as she won't have the power to do much damage from there. The second is getting on the attack (and avoiding lifting) – this is important in level doubles too, but even more so in mixed doubles, as the attacking power of the man causes a real mismatch for the opposing lady (once you're on the defensive, it's very hard to regain control of the point). This all starts with the return of serve.

January 2, 2013
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Some good thoughts there, definitely things to think about when returning serve. All I would add is that intimidating opponents serves works against men and women and at all levels, not just at lower levels. If I'm in ultra aggressive mode in a league match I will step into the first short serve of the game and hit the shuttle hard and aggressively at the server. It doesn't really matter where the shuttle ultimately goes the simple show of aggression can often be enough to win you a few free points with futures serves going into the net. (I would agree that this is not generally acceptable in social games unless you know your opposition well)

 

“try to get the lady at the back, as she won't have the power to do much damage from there.”

 

I enjoyed this quote. Generally speaking it's correct, but I think you'd enjoy playing some of the top women in my team. Effortless back to back clears and booming smashes from the ladies make mixed doubles a lot of fun Laugh

January 7, 2013
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It's funny how nobody has mentioned the art of targeting the server or their partner as a response. In some respects these shots do not have to be very aggressive but highly targeted. There are certain shots that can almost guarantee a good result here.

 

Let's also remember that the net is the most tactical area to dominate. A good night net shot can create more openings than a push. Just because a lady or a server may be stood close to the net should not preclude you from considering this option. After all, the pair that dominate the net are the pair that will win the game. So you really need to work on tactics that bring the net into play and use aggression here to force your opponents to give the net away.

 

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January 14, 2013
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Thanks everyone for the advice…

I am managing to put this advice into practice most of the time and it really has paid off. Basially I used all of the advice which people suggested – being aggressive when receiving serve, drive to the back corners, push to the tram lines between the pair, drop shots, body shots/net kills targeting the opponents body and if I switched off I would lift to the opponents backhand. The results were fantastic and I won a number of points when receiving serve and furthermore the opponents were all over the place!!!!

I need to improve on the accuracy of my shots as a few drives into the corner landed just out but I want to thank you all for the advice and help. I will be on again with more questions I am sure!!!

Graham

January 22, 2013
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Graham

 

Keep in touch and I hope you continue to improve using this website and forum.

 

I hope to see you on court in 2014!.

 

Paul

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