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Theoretical Badminton (Singles Version)
June 11, 2010
6:25 am
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Marc
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Hello everyone!

I am convinced that this forum is going to
flourish in no time, and I definitely want to be an active element in
the process. Let history show that this is my first attempt to spice
things up.

This thread is intended to help players (like
yours truly), from newbies to veterans, aspiring to play their best
games, to develop a healthy self-critical mind, a stronger sense for
tactics, better situational adaptability, and general insight into the
game.

My goal here is to make sure that although many people want
to participate, those reading though the posts will benefit just as
much from the process.

This thread is an experiment. Not a lab
coat experiment, and only a few steps from the kind of ‘experiments’
you were into as a toddler. How else did you figure out mud didn’t
taste like chocolate milk and putty colors don’t mix like crayon
colors? It should be an exercise in thought, but a light-hearted one.

Here’s
how it goes: one member will put up an in-game situation. A
freeze-frame of a real or imaginary game in which one player (called
Player) has a choice to make in light of the situation his opponent
(called Opponent) has or will put him in. It could be at any time, so
long as there is still enough time for Player to engage in an action
that leads to a shot being played.

I could give examples, but it
would make this sound like a rulebook. Common sense rules here. I have
no authority over this ‘game’, so I hope everyone will do their best to
stick with a workable form.

The description should include the position of Player and Opponent
and the shuttle, a description of the last shot played and eventual
landing point of the shuttle. Right handedness is assumed unless otherwise specified. The description could include many more
things, and it’s unlikely you’ll stick to only the very basics. You
could include:

– Relative strenghts and weaknesses, physical, mental or technical of Player and Opponent.

– Information about the shuttle (feather/synthetic, damage, flight path and speed, contact with net, etc).

– Condition of players’ rackets, court sides (sweat on court, broken strings), etc.

– Drafts. Those can be fun.

– These are just ideas. Add your own!

The most natural way to
organize this is in turns. Once a well-thought answer is conjured up,
the member should post his answer along with his own theoretical
situation IN THE SAME POST. Go for quality, but don’t forsake
continuity. I’m hoping this thread will do its time. In the case of
multiple replies to the same ‘problem’, the first one should take
precedence, and it then becomes the next ‘problem’ to ‘answer’, as per
the game.

I’ll get the ball rolling then!

 

Opponent
has replied to a cross-court drop to his forehand corner with a lift to
Player’s backhand corner. The shuttle is set to land near the corner of
the sideline and first long service line. Player has turned and is
lunging, aiming to take the shuttle just before it passes his shoulder
at full upward extension. He is currently lunging towards the corner
with his right foot still in the air, racked at the ready pointing
down. Elbow up.

While Player has good backhand drops and can
clear to both corners, his recovery speed from this kind of shot is
something he has to work on. Opponent on his end needed a deep lunge to
lift the shuttle semi-offensively, so his recovery to his center is
taking a bit longer than it would for a regular lunge. He is now ready
and a step away from his ideal base.

Keeping Opponent’s next shot in mind and, of course, the fate of the rally, what should the next shot be?

June 13, 2010
10:16 am
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Marc, I love this idea!

I’ll be watching this daily. Rather than me chip in everytime, I’m going to initially pass to gauge how others are thinking.

You’ve set up a good scenario here, so over to you guys…get your tactical brains in gear and let’s have some answers.

Paul

June 14, 2010
10:52 am
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If i understand the topic correctly, i must come up with a option that the player could play?

 

since you said that the player has a slower recovery time from this kind of shots, i would suggest he clears the shuttle in offensive way to the backhand corner for the opponent, So he can built the rally up again.

 

An other thing he could do is to play a slow precise dropshot to middle of the net. The opponent has limited angles that he can produce.

 

(sorry for my english, it’s not my first language)

June 14, 2010
6:14 pm
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Joost

your english is superb! And you’ve obviously thought about this considering your reply. The fast attacking clear will cause this opponent severe difficulty.

It’s amazing that I see so little use of tactics when I watch a game and yet, so many players seem to know the answers…they just don’t apply them.

Paul

June 15, 2010
4:37 am
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To Paul:
I think one of the best ways to improve is to maximize your use of court time. I don’t always get to practice, but focus on technique and tactical application in each stroke. To me, two hours of court time is like six hours of practice, even in games. But really, the best way to improve is by working on the basics and applying new insights. Next to that is improving the way you think about your shots and rallies and, once again, apply new learnings. Shots are useless unless you know the when, where and how, and what you’re trying to accomplish.

To Kinder:
I could go into a long discussion, but this isn’t a topic of opinions. Now you did half the job, which is to answer the question. You can add anything you want: reasons, alternatives, etc. Now all that’s left is to describe your own situation, so someone else can answer you, and so on and so forth. Follow the guidelines in the first post, but make adjustments to make yourself comfortable. I’m hoping this topic evolves beyond my raw idea.

And your English is perfectly fine. I’ve read posts in all sorts of places from native speakers of English that puts it to shame. Your composition is both grammatical and smooth. Cool

June 15, 2010
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oh sorry, here is my single situation.

player 1 is an attacking player in both singles and doubles. But in the singles he does have one major problem.

The defending opponent. every time when player 1 makes an attacking shot like a smash slow or fast, or a paced dropshot, the oponent lifts the shuttle high in the air. the oponent likes to play the rally and wait for an mistake from player 1. player 1 likes the fast paced rally’s and is keen for the net play/kill.

what should player 1 do to move the battle to the front court where he is in a major favour. (80% of the smashes wouldn’t work because the oponents defense is superb!)

July 27, 2010
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Nobody has been active on this one recently, so lets see if we can revive it!

 

The situation outlined is the attacking players nightmare. It sounds as if the Opponent has exceptional sideways and forewards movement, so Players faster attacking shots dont seem to be working! Player has some choices! Either he can just keep on going with his smashes and wait for the 20% of smashes that work to give a weak return/outright winner, but this seems a wasteful tactic if something else could be tried, as this style of play is exhausting! My thoughts for this situation are threefold:

  1. firstly because Player has good attacking shots, has the body smash been tried? Maybe the body smash will surprise Opponent and produce a weak response to the net, or a mid court lift instead of a full court one, and a good variety of body and straight/crosscourt smashes will produce an error. Shots aimed at the body CAN cramp the opposing player, especially if he is tall (and hence has the good reach).
  2. An unlikely but sometimes useful tactic is a VERY accurate slow drop shot, that lands very close to the net. This should make it more difficult to Opponent to get there : his movement style may not cope well with taking the extra half a step needed to reach the shuttle – leaving him out of position, or he may take it late and hence low, meaning it is very difficult to execute his FULL COURT high lift. However, this shot does not sound as if its one of the better ones in Players repertoire, so maybe another option is better.
  3. The third and favourite option is to execute a good fast and attacking clear. Typically a defending opponent is very good at sideways and forwards movement, but how good is his QUICK backwards movement, potentially taking the shuttle late and low? This works especially well if he anticipates a straight smash and instead receives a cross court punch clear, causing him to suddenly twist AND take the shuttle late.

I will chose option three, with half smashes as my other attacking shot of choice to set up the openings as it takes less effort than a smash and allows for a better recovery.

 

SO if i am correct, i get to set up a new situation? Here goes:

Player is right handed, player has good movement and a full array of strokes. Player doesn't often use deception, but can. Opponent is left handed, and following a backhand net push from Player, straight down opponents backhand side, Opponent has hit a flat cross court drive that has surprised Player and will land just short of the doubles back service line, a small distance in from the sideline. Player had a good base, but has had to twist and rotate quickly to head towards the shuttle, as in his surprise did not intercept the shuttle. Player can reach the shuttle from at about waist height, just before the doubles service line as the shuttle is dropping. Player cannot see Opponent. What shall Player do?

 

p.s. Marc: great idea for a forum!

July 27, 2010
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Mseeley

I normally use a backhand clear but since its at waist height it will be diffcult. I suggest hitting a accurate drop shot to the front of the net forcing the oppoent to lift the shuttle. Second opption is if Player can't hit a good clear to Oppent's back court he could play a high lift to the oppent's centre court. This gives player a long recovery time to base postion and makes player ready for the oppents smash which is highly likely to come.

NEW SITUATION

In a game of double the two oppents are constantly choosing to attack Player's partner with Clears, drops and smashes. Player's partner is weaker than Player in defense, and is making them lose a lot of points. That should Player do to improve the situation?

July 27, 2010
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(should just point out that as player is right handed and opponent is left handed in my example, shuttle is taken from late FOREHAND corner! But good suggestions for the other scenario!)

August 3, 2010
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Guys I love this thread! I wish more forum members would join in as you can learn a lot about tactics and shot choice from it.

I'm not going to comment further right now as I don't wish to get in the way of this great idea.

Paul

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