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7:36 pm
February 15, 2011
Interesting comments…
It’s difficult to compare tennis and badminton. If you look at this years Wimbledon, the men’s game has changed a lot and there are more baseline rallies. This makes the game relatively easy on the eye of the TV viewer being able to watch two players slug it out. With games over relatively quickly, it also suits the attention deficit to a degree. Badminton is simply too fast compared to this. Bear in mind TV for many is entertainment and therefore viewers to not want to focus hard to watch. And that’s why badminton to the general public will never work.
Our scoring system isn’t difficult and I really can’t say how the players feel about potential changes. Everybody wants the sport to be more commercial and that’s why BWF are testing the scoring format. Sky Sports obviously don’t like this format and therefore the final game near sudden death shootout has been designed. Nobody can really say at the moment whether this system will work. I won’t know as I don’t have Sky, so won’t be watching the NBL. The players don’t excite me enough to go out of my way to watch.
I’m interested to see what happens with the other tested scoring system. I do not expect any changes to our game this year and it’s going to be interesting what results come out of the tests, if and when published. Will it impact on league badminton? Not for the immediate future because it may take an other year for Badminton England to adopt the change. After that it may take several years for leagues to adopt the new scoring system, if at all.
This is very much a sit back and let’s see what happens situation.
In the meantime, the World Championships are about to begin and I’m really looking forward to seeing quality badminton after the Commonwealth Games. I’m also ready for more commentary by Gill Clark and Morten Frost. They work well together.
Paul
8:32 am
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December 4, 2010
Should the new scoring system be adopted by our leagues, would this change your style of play? What changes to your game would you make? Ie would you play tactically or go all out & be aggressive?
Re commentary of Gill Clark & Morten Frost they have a good chemistry between them. I would love to sit & chat with them over a meal + would be great to commentate with them & discuss things from a clubs players view & discuss the tactics, just to see & test your own understanding of the game.
9:52 am
February 15, 2011
This is a really good question and tough to answer.
A shorter game certainly favours the aggressive player. What will be essential is a good warm up and knock up to be ready to attack from the start. I think this will also encourage players to work harder on their defence, especially drive and block. It will be important to turn defence into attack as quickly as possible.
Will this change the game in league badminton? I’m not so sure. It may change results though as some players will not learn and therefore pay the price. The defender style player will struggle to win. Also those players with a weak attack will find it difficult.
Dominating the net and shutting out your opponents will become even more important and also the serve will remain the most important shot of the game. A good low serve is essential now and this won’t change. Return of serve professionally won’t change but for clubs, lifting to the rear court may be frowned upon.
With all of that said, I still believe there is a place for court craft and the ability to out think and out manoeuvre an opponent. In some respects this often overlooked skill may become important again.
I am the last person to hold onto the old scoring system if a new system is deemed to work better. However, how this will fit into a league structure is a different question and at the moment it’s anyone’s guess what impact it will have.
It’s good to debate these matters but we may be jumping the gun. Until we or our respective league clubs are asked to vote on the subject, it’s pure speculation whether it will happen.
Paul
12:42 pm
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December 4, 2010
Re Tv coverage as Cybershuttle mentioned the angles of cameras, think this is a good point, but think it would only work for finals when down to one court, I personally would like to see more action in slow motion showing & highlighting the skills of the players, how the shuttle is spinning. But I guess it’s all down to money.
I would like to see a ribbon being worn by players highlighting where their lowest rib is, players stats i.e left or right handed, the racket they use, etc.
3:14 pm
August 28, 2014
Personally i’m very excited by the prospect of the new scoring system.
Getting to crucial points sooner is only going to enhance suitability for TV coverage in my opinion, which we must all agree is what the sport needs in this day and age. Things will always inevitably change, and the sport must evolve with the times or be lost.
The only possible negative I can think of is the effect of matches at club nights/local league etc – but i’m sure people said that and had the same worries when we moved from the old scoring system (15) to the current. That change seemed strange at first but over time things just become the accepted norm…
6:15 pm
February 15, 2011
I’ve been following Alistair Casey who plays professionally. It’s very interesting to read his views as he’s currently played in a tournament and was quite negative about the system. I’m open-minded. There’s a great deal of testing to be done and opinions to take into consideration after the testing. Thereafter, once a decision is made it is up to the various country Associations to take this forward to their leagues. It took long enough to change to rally point system in some areas. We simply don’t know enough yet to worry about it.
Paul
9:28 am
August 28, 2014
2:51 pm
May 6, 2010
I never thought I would say this but… Having now played a few 5 x 11 Matches in training I am becomming a bit of a convert. What it seems to do is add a lot of intensity to the games. You cannot afford mistakes at all, a couple of times i have messed up a few points in a row, thinking in terms of the extra padding that 21 points can give then suddenly thought ‘Get it together this is only up to 11…’ It doesn’t necessarily favour attackers but definatly favours consistancy. The 11 point setup leads to natural breaks in the pro’s games as they have a break at 11 points anyway. So from a viewing point the break at 11 has more meaning and fits with the current setup. Tight games will be long and hard as ever but the one sided games that arent so interesting will be over quickly which can only be a good thing. Have to see how things pan out but it is possible the powers that be may be on to something here. The only thing I would add is on the final game (number 5) have the two clear points setting to win the game. After all it adds a heck of a lot of tension and you need a little uncertainty in the schedule and result.
My only real question is how it will filter down to club level. I am not sure I would want to play 1 x 11. 3 x 11 woud be acceptable though. Mind you I suppose the 1 x 11 would offer fast court turn arounds and it is likely we would be back playing sooner than if we were waiting for a game of 21’s to finish so maybe not so bad.
I would suggest you set up a few 5 x 11’s and try it out. I would be interested to see what you all think.
4:53 pm
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August 12, 2010
Cybershuttle said
My only real question is how it will filter down to club level. I am not sure I would want to play 1 x 11. 3 x 11 woud be acceptable though. Mind you I suppose the 1 x 11 would offer fast court turn arounds and it is likely we would be back playing sooner than if we were waiting for a game of 21’s to finish so maybe not so bad.
I would suggest that on a club night 2 x 11 is appropriate – its a similar number of points as there is currently, and may result in a win, lose or draw (no big deal).
Its interesting to hear you have enjoyed the new system. My main concern is it may potentially remove a fitness element to the game, which should not be lost any more… and it could detract from a tactical point of view because you have less time to work out your opponents.
12:12 pm
May 6, 2010
As far as the tactical element is concerned because you are playing over 5 games as opposed to three I believe there will be ample opportunity to develop strategies and tactics. It may mean that you will have to alter your tactics quicker but there is definatly room for that aspect of the game. The 2 x 11 format for clubs actually sounds a pretty good idea like you say its essentially the same number of points as a current game so that could work well. I should think the 11 scoring will offer differing club formats depending on the number of players, available courts, player preferences etc…
One good aspect of using the 5 x 11 right now in training is that it seems to create more urgency and focus in each of the 11 point sets. Which means when you go back to 21’s you focus more on each half of the game. ie: more focused 0-11 and 12-21 like treating each half as two games.
I was pleasantly surprised by it.
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