Yonex Arcsaber Z Slash Badminton Racquet
There’s been a tremendous amount of traffic on the forums about this racquet. I can’t remember a time when a new racquet was so eagerly awaited. Yonex Japan website enticed us with their advertising, however, they kept us all in the dark about the looks of this racquet until a few days before launch.
When pictures were available, the racquet met with mixed response. Some said it was ghastly whilst others raved over its colourful graphics. But, did it live up to the hyped anticipation and expectation? Let’s get into the review. Above all else, please remember that choosing a racquet is personal and you are the only person to judge whether this racquet is for you.
With all the hype surrounding this racquet, I was expecting a flashy cover – something different to set it apart from the rest of the Yonex range. As you can imagine, I was a bit disappointed when I saw the standard Arcsaber racquet cover. Fair play to Yonex though, they are trying to standardise their range so, in some ways, why should this racquet get special treatment?
I had that Christmas morning feeling as I slowly unzipped the cover and pulled out the racquet. Wow! I was met by the most striking graphics I’ve seen on a racquet for some time. If you’re ultra conservative, you may see the racquet as flash or gawdy but I really liked it. The graphics combine black, red, yellow, gold and white.
At first glance, apart from the graphics, this looks like any other racquet. But, there are a number of differences when investigated further.
First off, the head looks slightly thinner. Initially I thought this was due to the stringing. But, Yonex stringers are amongst the best in the world so this needed closer inspection. No, this is definitely a slightly different shape, drawing in from the sides by approximately half a centimetre each side, which is considerable. The head length is the same.
The shaft is approximately 1cm longer than my Nanospeed 9900 which should therefore generate a bit more power. The handle is around 2cm shorter and ferrule (plastic piece above the handle) reduced by around 25% (my estimation.) The ferrule itself looks considerably smaller and is a slightly different shape. Personally, I can’t see this adding much, if anything, to the racquet’s performance, although I’m sure the marketers will tell you differently.
The racquet is a standard 3U (weight 84-89g) with grip size G4. This is a little surprising as usually in UK we get grip size G3 which is slightly larger. Yonex have previously supplied larger grip sizes to our market as they consider we have larger hands. So, I can’t understand why this top-of-the-range racquet is supplied with the smaller grip size. Let’s move on…
So how does this racquet feel? Certainly it’s different from Arcsaber 10. It’s almost a cross between Armortec 900 Power (which readers will know is a particular favourite of mine) and Nanospeed 9900 (my current racquet).
It’s certainly well balanced although I’d say there’s leaning towards more weight in the head. Prior to heading out of the door, I put a grip on the racquet and couldn’t resist a few swishes in my front room. Wow! The speed through the air was amazing. Certainly a lot less “drag” than other racquets. This racquet certainly felt fast for power shots which was a surprise, bearing in mind the heavier head. It’s going to be interesting to see how it delivers both in terms of overhead power and defence.
I used the racquet this evening in a training night at my league club. First off I played a game of men’s doubles. In the warm up I felt pretty good about the racquet although knew it was going to take some getting used to.
Why?
The racquet is certainly solid enough. My touch was slightly off, but that was partly due to the lower string tension and me having to adapt to the racquet. The slightly heavier head was noticeable although it was certainly fast around the net.
Where this racquet scores big time, is when you actually time the stroke properly. The shuttle then travels like a bullet and all the comments about how powerful this racquet is can be believed. In the warm up I hit a few good smashes that went down like a shell – fantastic, I’m ready for the game now.
Wrong! Getting my timing right in the warm up did not prepare me for the speed of the game at all. I found that, even with my experience, I was mis-timing so many overheads. Whilst I stuck at it, we lost the game easily which was disappointing.
I then did some feeding with the racquet and it felt really good. Lots of underarm feeding was a piece of cake. I was still very conscious of the weight in the head of the racquet and felt very comfortable with it.
Following this, I worked with the players on defence. Having previously been the feeder, I was very keen to get involved as a player and try the racquet. I was delighted with the results. This racquet was really solid in defence moving very quickly to respond to the shuttle. The extra weight in the head felt great and gave me that additional kick in high lifts to get a good length, even when digging shuttles out of my racquet hip.
Following this we did some fast hands work around the net. Again, I was delighted with the racquet. It was certainly fast enough in this department with the added “meat” and consequently control I’ve missed when using my Nanospeed 9900.
Sadly, I didn’t get to play another game – I’ll have to wait for next week.
To sum up my evening, the racquet performed like a trouper in all departments except my overhead – the place where it’s supposed to shine brightest. I really was delighted with all the areas we tested, and boy we tested hard tonight.
I’ve read with interest from the badminton forums the comments made by players who have purchased this racquet and found it’s not suited them. I can fully understand the frustrations from these players as I guess I was having exactly the same feelings early in the night.
This is a brilliant racquet, no doubt about it. So, why I can’t I play with it immediately? The answer is simple…
This is a pedigree racquet that requires coaxing into greatness. When you time your shot right, this beauty delivers power in abundance. And here lies the crux of the matter…”when.” This racquet takes more getting used to than any I’ve used before.
Maybe it’s the combination of longer shaft, shorter handle and smaller head? Maybe it’s the aero-dynamic head that moves so fast when asked to perform in this manner – it’s almost too good for me right now.
Having thought more about what I’ve just written, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s the racquets ability to generate such magnificent speed through the air which is catching me out and throwing my timing. When I master this, I believe I will tame this beast and be able to get the best from it.
I also lent this racquet to other players this evening. The looks on their faces when they timed a smash were a sight to see. I witnessed some awesome smashing with this racquet tonight. But, these huge smashes were a very small percentage out of the many hit during the evening.
How am I going to rate this racquet? RRP is around £180 which places it as the most expensive Yonex racquet on the market. It’s possibly the most expensive Yonex racquet ever! Is it worth it? Only you can tell.
Personally, for many players it will be out of reach. Maybe not from a price perspective, but more so in terms of what they can get out of it. An average league player can do better by choosing their next racquet wisely, rather than thinking the most expensive is the best racquet for them.
Having said all of that, and despite me not making a marriage proposal on our first date, I really do love this racquet. I want to spend more time with it, get to know it better and find out how to make us a perfect partnership.
This racquet has bowled me over. I don’t exactly know why, but I’m itching to test it again, and again and want to master the overhead timing and see what this beauty can really deliver. I can’t wait for our next date.
I can’t remember the last time a racquet had this effect on me. So despite the immediate negative aspect which I think is due to the astonishing speed through the air this racquet generates, I am going to rate this racquet at 4.5 stars. I really believe this racquet has the potential to be a classic, if it can be tamed. I’ve deducted half a star because of the price although must confess that this could become withdrawn completely and changed to a 5 star rating when I get used to the awesome power this racquet generates.
I may have to write an additional review on this racquet when I’ve had a little more time with it. Watch this space…
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I tried a friends z force 2 but it felt too heavy
Hi Paul,
Could you tell in the catergories of speed, ease to generate power, and control, which of the three racquets Nanoray z speed, Voltric z force and the z slash are the best at?
Thanks for your time, Herbert
Herbert
Personally I wouldn’t put Z Speed in any category. Second, would you prefer Z Force II rather than the original?
Paul
Hi Paul,
It has been 4 years since you made this review on the Z slash. In your opinion, is this racket still worth considering since there are many new high-end Arcsabers like the recent Arcsaber 11 in the market?
Thanks.
Steven
Steven
My guess is that Yonex are currently working on a replacement to Arcsaber range bearing in mind the whole range has slimmed over the last year. Yonex UK website shows that out of the big three, this is now the range with fewest rackets. Z Slash has been a huge seller for Yonex although I rarely see it in clubs.
My opinion of Z Slash remains unchanged although there are so many excellent rackets to choose from it’s worth testing as much as you can.
Paul
Hi paul, first of all i just wanted to thank you for your review on this raquet as it ultimately helped me purchase and fall in love with it!
i have been playing badminton on and off for 13 years and have recently joined my uni team. Now that im properly getting back into it i decided to spend my bonus from work on this racket. So for me this is quite a jump from what i had before which was an old cheap carlton to the z slash. My question is that after playing a few times with the racket i notice that the strings seem to move out of position way more that i would expect and i find myself having to move them into position. is this more common in higher end rackets? i bought it from Greaves in Glasgow so there is no question that it is genuine.
if this isnt common what should i do? it is currently just setup as default from the guys in greaves.
thanks paul!
Andy
It’s not uncommon for strings to move in any racket, never mind a high-end frame. This could be caused by a slight slicing action from you. Even high tension stringing will not stop this movement.
Did you have your racket custom strung when you purchased it? If not perhaps the strings are a little old and therefore a restring will help.
Good luck
Paul
Hey Paul, I saw a racket called the Arcsaber I-Slash on the Yonex international
Website have you heard of it. There’s no mention of it on the internet.
Justin
ISlash is a new Arcsaber that has been launched in Asia. It’s a stiff racquet although I don’t make much data on it yet. I checked with Yonex UK and they have no official release date yet. My guess is that the racquet will be launched at Japan Open and maybe available in Europe November. Yonex UK seems to favour a November release although some consider this may be for the new Nanoray 800 that was also introduced recently.
Sorry I don’t have anything concrete to tell you as it’s all speculation at the moment.
To your success
Paul
HI Paul!
First, let me thank you for your reviews. I was looking for a racket and your reviews helped a lot in narrowing down the field on what to look for.
I ended up trying out z-Slash and Voltric 80. I was apprehensive about the Z-Slash based on the review. I play more doubles than singles. When I started playing with it, I had difficulty, but it improved very quickly. When I started playing with it, I found I could hit deeper clears and was able to slice more than the Voltric. it felt quite nice in my hands. Voltric felt very good initially, but it was difficult as the evening progressed.
I am a novice to intermediate player. Not very good, so I mistime a bit irrespective of the racket. I felt Z-Slash was something I could grow with as my skill improved. In time, I would be able to use it to it’s full potential.
Thanks again for your reviews.
Ash
Hi Paul,
I really want to thank you for all the advice you have been giving to all your readers. I think for a lot of us, we do not have the chance to try a racket before buying. So when buying a high-end expensive racket, any review i can find is really helpful. And yours work wonders for me.
I’m a proud owner of 2 Arcsaber Z-Slash. One is the Taufik edition and the other is the yellow original edition. I was a bit doubtful when choosing this because i read that you had a lot of timing issues. That is considering that you’re a professional coach and i’m just a intermediate player.
But your reviews did encourage me to buy one. For anyone else reading, both the z-slash editions play the same. And yes, both have a very weird timing. It took me more than 2 months before i could finally get used to it. But when i did, whoo… The smashes were just thundering down on the court. Unfortunately, maybe it is just me, my net play was a bit lacking. Drop shots were not a problem, but net play seems so much harder than my Nanospeed 9900.
Weirdly, after i get used to my z-slash, every other racket just feels… weird! I’ve tried a wide range of rackets (probably not as many as you :)) but none feels the same. This includes high-ends like VT80, AT900P, AT700, AT600, Arc10, Arc7, N90, and my own NS9900. I can honestly say that once you get used to the timing and potential of the z-slash, other racket takes time to get used to again.
Anyway sorry i said so much, but Paul, you did a great favour to us all by reviewing the rackets in the market. I’m in Plymouth, and i can honestly tell you that there are no shops selling higher-end Yonex rackets, let alone test them. Great job! Thanks a lot.
p/s: I noticed you haven’t reviewed the nanoray series? And i heard there is goning to be a new addition to the Voltric series. LCW is using a new racket in the Korea open if you’re watching. Looking forward to your reviews!
Chris
Hi Chris
To date I don’t have any new information on the new Voltric which LCW has been using at Korea Open. I do expect an All England launch but am waiting for the guys at Yonex to let me know a little more.
I haven’t tested the Nanoray series yet purely because I haven’t been sent any to review.
My main concern at the moment is that I’ve written so many racquet reviews that they have taken over my blog. So whilst I’ve tested other racquets I’ve refrained from posting the reviews and am now concentrating on writing coaching articles to get back to the essence of the blog.
I have a number of articles coming out soon covering a range of topics. I also have to prepare for my next Lilleshall weekend so there is a huge amount to do. That said, I will cover the Nanoray racquets as and when I have demos to test. I have tried 80 but will be using it again soon before writing a review. I can tell you it’s not as light in the head as I expected.
So bear with me Chris whilst I try to get back to basics in terms of what my blog is meant to be – a coaching blog.
Thanks for your comments regards my racquet reviews and I’m so pleased to find a player who can use the Z Slash!
To your success
Paul
Hi Paul, i have recently bought voltric 80 for chrimbo
i currently use z slash but i am struggling to get used to it still after about 6 months!!
do you think buying the voltric 80 was a good decision??
cheers
Chris
It could be that you and the racquet just do not get on. Perhaps you should test a few other racquets such as VT70 to see if that helps at all.
After 6 months you should easily be able to play with a racquet.
Paul
cheers for the advise
i have played with the voltric 80 now on two club nights and it already feels part of my arm.. smashes are consistent, it really is a great racket!
and most importantly,, no dud frames anymore…
Chris
That’s a good sign. I hope the racquet continues to shine for you.
To your success
Hello Paul,
I am playing badminton since 7 years but never bought an expensive racket like Yonex 9900. Recently, I bought Arc Saber Z slash. I am from India. So the racket I have is SP. I read your previous articles and want to know the timing changes I will have to do to adapt. I want to adapt to it quickly and want to play well. Please guide me soon.
Thanks and regards,
Akshay
Akshay
The timing issue does not happen to every player. Some have no issues whatsoever with this brilliant racquet.
You need to test the racquet first to get a feel for it. Play hard and see if you have any poor mishits. If you do then you may be in for a rough ride whilst you get used to the racquet. If not, then don’t worry about it and enjoy the Z Slash.
To your success
Paul
Hi Paul,
The only reason I was looking for another racquet apart from AT900T was I wanted a racquet which is faster and compliments me with its speed.
I bought a Arcsaber Z slash with Nanogy 95 with a tension of 24 lbs.
Like the AT900T, I was instantly very comfortable with the racquet
It’s been 2 days and this is what I feel about the racquet
Shuttle: Yonex AS feather shuttle
Baseline clears:
Baseline clears were effortless, I enjoyed the power and speed that this racquet delivered
Net play & drops:
It was spot on, it was not amazing but I know I will improve over time.
The overhead drops and the slice shots were good
Backhand drives:
With close to 4 hrs + of game time over a period of 2 days, I did not feel any strain in my arms or wrists
(Let me take this opportunity to thank you for
1) Arm chair exercises for strengthening the wrists
2) Secret-badminton-skills-you-must-possess-in-order-to-out-manoeuvre-outplay-and-outscore-your-opponent-to-win-the-game
– My game type — Attacking Thinker)
My backhand drives and occasional backhand half smashes came through very well.
As I continue work on the exercises, I feel the difference in my game.
Smashes:
I love the way this racquet smashes
It feels like an extension of my arm.
I am pleasantly surprised that the Z slash has worked well for me.
Although, these my initial impressions with just 4 + hours of game time,
I am confident on getting a better perspective in a couple of weeks.
While AT900T is like a gentle lover, the Z slash is a passionate lover who gets your heart pulsating.
It is true that it amplifies the game.
Have I mastered the Z slash???
Answer: Zen silence
Conclusion:
I love the Z slash
Regards,
Raaj
Raaj
Good luck with Z Slash. I hope it lives up to your initial impressions.
Thanks for your comments regards my articles and videos. I’m so pleased you found them useful.
Paul
Hi Paul,
I am back on your forum with a question.
After having stuck to Carbonex 21 for 15 years I suddenly find myself exploring one racquet to another.
As you would have noticed,
I have tried my level best to fall in love with the Voltric 80 but the instant connection with the Armortec 900 T was too hard for me to resist. I am very happy with the AT900T.
I am now getting lured by Z slash, I really want to go for this racquet as I feel it has the edge in terms of speed and power.
I would appreciate your detailed comparison on an Armortec 900 T & Z slash similar to what you had posted on
1) Arc 10 & Z slash
2) Nano 9900 & Z slash
As you can tell, I value your opinion and your writing style.
I do understand, players preference should be the final word in deciding a racquet but you valued comparison would do the trick for me.
Regards,
Raaj
OK, you want a comparison between AT900T and Z Slash.
Weigthting on the Z Slash is similar to VT80 i.e. the weight is in the top of the head, whereas AT900T has weight around the throat area. This means you don’t feel the carry through as much on your shots. It’s almost like the weight on AT900T sits more behind the shot rather than leads the shot which you find on Z Slash and VT80.
Z Slash shaft is slightly longer than AT900T and therefore has a different feel – it’s more akin to VT80. In fact, in many ways VT80 is a Z Slash with a bigger head and slightly stiffer hence the lack of timing issues which has been the downfall of Z Slash.
In my opinion, if you didn’t like VT80, then Z Slash is more difficult to play with and certainly further away from AT900T.
Weights may vary depending on what you can get – we’re limited in UK. Overall, I wouldn’t say Z Slash is your go to racquet. If you like AT900T so much, why are you looking for another racquet? Why not buy another AT900T and then you’ve got the perfect spare?
Aside from slight variance in flexibility, I’d say VT5 or 7 are closer to AT900T as they don’t carry so much weight in the top of the head.
Hope this helps.
Let me know what you choose.
Paul
Yes, i gave my friend’s voltric 70 a tryout, however, it seemed a little flexy for my liking haha, so might be waiting for a stiffer model to come out in 2011. In the meantime, I might try persuade my parents to let me collect a few more armortec 700s or 900s before they become extinct 😛 such a pity yonex are getting rid of such a awesome series ;( i just hope it doesnt get elevated into the price range of the ti 10 😛
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the armchair exercises, the difference was unbelievable, in the end, I ended up going with the Armortec 900 Power. I have it strung with bg80 @ 25 lbs and its just unbelievable. the fine touches are phenomenal. However, recently, my friend started tempting me with a arcsaber z slash haha. I tried it out for a training session and I think I’ve already found a new love :O pity it was right after I bought the 900. Oh well, live and learn haha. The longer shaft and the smaller head really did result in me having a more explosive smash when compared to my Armortec!! maybe I’ll get one nxt year 😛
Derek
Derek
AT900 Power is a great year. Sadly, it’s only a matter of time before Yonex officially announce they have ceased production of this racquet.
The good news is that the new Voltric 70 is almost a unification of AT900 Power and Z Slash. It’s full size aerodynamic head with nice weight at the top performs with the best of both. It’s not quite as head heavy as AT900 Power, but it’s not far away.
I’d say it’s worth giving it a try, although I can accept why you love Z Slash so much too.
To your success
Paul
Hi paul,
sorry for the late reply as well.
I reckon my power level is about average, something that has a bit of meat in the head would be nice though. Right now the dilemma i’m facing is that generally the head heavy rackets are quite slow in defence, and that can be quite a turn off, especially as I play doubles as well, and as such require quick speed in addition to power.
Derek
Derek
Many players have the same dilemma.
If you do my armchair exercises then you’ll notice a maasive change in your hand speed in defence and will think your racquet is lighter. Do the exercises every other day, and especially before you play and you will notice a difference.
If you’re still struggling then we talk racquets again.
Paul
Hi Paul,
I’m a intermediate advance badminton player, I am currently using the armortec 900 technique, in some ways I know its a good racket, but somehow, its just a tad slow for me, I can smash with it just fine though. I’m looking for a racket which is fast in defense and yet has a lot to offer in the overhead department. I generally string with BG 65 or BG 80 at around 25lbs. What racket would you recommend for me?
Derek.
P.S I enjoy a fast agressive style of play, mostly singles, but my school needs me to play doubles as well.
Hi Derek
Sorry for the late reply.
Tough call really. My suggestion will depend non whether you feel you have a lot of natural power or whether you need a racquet to help you generate power.
Return to me with your answer and I’ll gladly give you my thoughts.
Paul
Hi,
Currently I’m practice to use wrist more than shoulder to do a lob. For smashing, indeed I always use wrist.
For backhand, I’m using wrist and elbow.
Hmm… need more and more practise.
Thank you for you helpful information.
Andy
Hi,
well, I hope so. But I’ve never though that, previously, I’m always looking for a headlight racquet. Not an offensive type of player though.
But correct me if I’m wrong.
Stiffer shaft -> numb shoulder
Higher string tension -> numb shoulder
are those correct ?
Tq.
Andy
Good points but they aren’t necessarily true. It could be that you don’t need extra flex. The big difference could be that you were throwing your shoulder into the shot to get the power and that’s why you suffered so much. The string tension and shaft flex may have nothing to do with your shoulder problem.
Paul
Hi,
I just want to inform you, that finally I’ve bought a second hand Arc10 last week(second hand, but looks like brand new. no paint chip, no scratch). including NBG95 probably around 26-28lbs (based on my 25/27 NS500, since the string is not moved when I strech it with my finger).
I’ve played with it a few time in single game. And I found out that this racquet is felt so great. It improve my lob and net play. for defense I still getting used to it, not as fast as my NS500.
Coincidently, yesterday, one of my club’s member brought an ArcZ. So I try it once, and I feel that this racquet really has a fast swing, and I want it too 🙂
But since I already have my Arc10, I want to explore it more first.
I just wonder, with this Arc10, I do smash much more than when I use NS500.
Why my shoulder less numb (almost none) compare to NS500, the day after the game ?
I don’t feel any pain although I play harder and smash more with this Arc10, and the string is much tense (NBG95, 26-28lbs) compare to my NS500 (NBG98, 25/27lbs).
Is this really the character of Arc10 ?
Thank you in advance.
Andy
Andy
Many thanks for your comments. It could be that you don’t suit light headed racquets and that’s why your shoulder isn’t hurting after using Arcsaber 10. Maybe you’ve just found your ideal racquet – if you have then streets ahead of many players.
Paul
Andy
It concerns me the fact you can move a main string so easily. It may worth finding a calibration device so you can be far more accurate with your stringing. Also, it may help you sell your stringing services because you can be certain of the tension you are stringing to.
If you like AT700 and the additional power you get, then you certainly don’t have a problem with stiff shafted racquets. It may be AT900Power or Arcsaber series racquets will suit your game better.
The swing speed of Z Slash is certainly impressive, however it does mean that some players struggle with timing.
Andy, you’ve lots to think about and consider before committing to your next racquet.
Paul
Hi,
I’m not a stringer; therefore I’m not sell stringing service. I just string my racquet, then brought it to stringer service for tension.
In you rough estimation, what is the tension of my string based my previous story ?
Rather Armortec, I prefer Arcsaber, before I want to move to ArcZ, I prefer Arc10, but some people said that Arc10 *little* lack of power.
Ok, about the what to be my racquet, I’ll need more through consideration again. But, again, there is no Arc10 nor ArcZ to try 🙁
Thank you very much.
Andy
Hi Paul,
I’m a very newbie in badminton, as I just restart playing badminton within this 2 years.
I want to ask you several questions, which I’ve never get a satisfactory answers.
First, I think I prefer playing control and defend, since I have very weak shot and breath (read: stamina); so I use a more head light type racquet, but in order to help my clear I use a lower tension of my string.
I’m using a YY NS500 (although this raquect felt a little head heavy) with NBG98 strung at 25/27.
I want to try the CBG100, but some people said that since it is thicker than NBG98, I should strung in higher tension. Is it a correct information ?
Based on my character and my current equipment, is it okay for me to use ArcZ ? I really had a crush with this one, but I never have a chance to try it since nobody in my club have it, and there is no demo racquet out there.
Recently YY release a Voltric 70, with the price is around the ArcZ.
Can you provide a review comparing between theese two ? AFAIK, the Voltric is for offensice since it’s head heavy.
About the stringing, is there any use (or difference) if we strung a racquet according to YY stringing instruction (as explained in their website) compared to just string it in whatever way the stringer like ?
Many people told me that YY prefer to have their racquet strung 10% lower tension for the main. So I strung main (vertical) at 25lbs and cross (horizontal) at 27lbs; 2 pieces. What is the point in doing this ?
Is this a truth or just a mith ?
In the old times, at 80s-90s, the third cross section from bottom usually skipped. I’ve used that too. At that time, many people said it’s to gave a better repulsion. I’m still 10 years old back then, so I just took their information blindly. I only ask to them, if this for real why the pros didn’t do that (the pros strung their racquet at full), and they answer that the pros using different racquet and string. Make sense too.
So I want to ask you, is there any point to skip the third cross section from bottom ?
Thanks a lot for your time, I’m looking forward for your answer to satisfied my “long term” curiosity; and sorry for my bad english.
Andy.
Hi Andy
Many thanks for your questions – I’ll do my best to answer them.
First off, your current string tension 25/27 is not low. For someone who hasn’t played very much and developed good technque, that’s a high tension. In UK most players like you would be using 19/21 lbs tension.
Why are you looking to change your string to a thicker gauge? If so, why not look at BG65Ti as it’s a far better string than you’ve been suggesting.
You could use a Z SLash however that’s a huge jump from Nano head light technology. If you want to spend the money then go ahead. However, it may be better to understand the characteristics of a racquet you like to play with before making your next choice.
Test a few other racquets that are more head heavy than your current racquet. Also test a few with different shafts to see whether you’d suit a stiff shaft. After all, if you don’t like head heavy, stiff shafted racquets, chances are you won’t like a Z Slash.
You should follow Yonex stringing instructions. First, because that’s how the racquet should be strung. Second, if you don’t and the frame breaks, you will not be able to take it back to a shop and try and get a new one. You’ve invalidated warranty by not following recommendations set by the manufacturer.
This 10% rule is basically true, although most follow a 1 down, 1 up rule e.g. if you’re looking for 25lbs tension, strings mains at 24lbs and crosses at 26 lbs.
Why? When you tensions mains strings and then weave in your cross strings, as soon as you begin tensioning cross strings this immediately increases the tension on the main string because it is being stretched again.
I remember the cross string near the bottom being left out, sometimes 2 cross strings. Whilst this did result in a slight improvement in the air resistance qualities of the racquet, it also weakened the hitting area, sometimes resulting in more string breakage.
I hope I’ve covered all your points.
To your success
Paul
Thanks for your quick reply,
First, I can’t guarantee that 25/27 is real 25/27 lbs, since the stringing machine is manual and I doubted that it has been calibrated regulary. As the matter infact, very few (if not none) stringing machine is calibrated regulary around in my city.
After the stringing, the main string still can be moved by finger and stay there, not returning to the posistion before. could move around 1,5mm. but the cross is returning the the previous position. therefore I’m not sure if the 25 is real 25lbs.
I’m in tropical country, with 60-70% humidity. Any of these parameter take effect ? For the shuttle, AFAIK more humid will be heavier.
The problem is, there is not ArcZ around me (except in store, but no demo racquet).
I’ve try Arm 700 (BG66, 28/28 -> not sure about the calibration), and yes it a little heavy for me, but indeed gave me better clear lob.
The reason I want to ArcZ is considering the swing speed.
With Arm700, I’m not defending as fast as before. But indeed it helps my clear. Don’t have a chance to play in a game.
tq
All the time I see people compliment this racquet on it’s powerful capabilities due to the racquet head speed you can attain with it in-game. But after having had mine for approximately 10 months now I have to say that my favourite part is slice-drops and pretty much any slice related racquet movement, when comparing it to my AS10 all my slices seem much more potent. This is definitely opening up another side of the AS Z Slash that I don’t think many people pick up on when they think “Z Slash”
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Dear Paul,
Lol whats with the long delay in replies,i thought something bad happened to you
Gabriel
Gabriel
Just did a sweep of comments and found yours hadn’t been approved. Therefore had to take care of it and respond.
Hey, I’m busy! I’m writing, getting ready to film again, trying to book a weekend residential coaching weekend and plan my next articles for my blog.
Coupled with that I have two small boys under 4, a few businesses to run, a band to play in. No wonder I’m not getting to the gym!
I’ve a que of people wanting me to do a coaching session for them, I’ve demo sessions to arrange with Yonex and lots of other stuff on the horizon too.
So sorry if I missed your comment. As my blog and forum are getting busier, it’s a lot harder managing the traffic!
All the best
Paul
Dear Paul,
By the way,i happen to come across a imitation of Arcsaber Z slash made by apacs which they named it Edgesaber Z sparks,i wonder if its equally good or the difference would be really huge?
Gabriel
Gabriel
Yes, I’ve seen a picture. What does it say about Apacs when they need to copy this new racket? No ideas of their own?
Let’s face it, that’s some the crooks who copy a Rolex watch. Don’t ever expect it to be as good because it won’t be.
Apacs can make good rackets so it’s very disappointing that they chose to copy this brilliant racket.
Paul
Hi Paul,
Glad to see someone like you spending your free time sharing your experiences with others which could be spend on other place,seems like you enjoy helping others on the queries they have etc.Dont seem to see any blogs related to badminton created by singaporeans,happen to come across your blog,without a doubt,its great.
Gabriel
Hi Gabriel
Thanks for your comments. You’d be amazed how much time this takes, but it’s fun too.
Please tell your badminton friends about the site and hopefully they’ll register too.
Remember to register for the forum so you can join in and post questions and comments.
To your success
Paul
Hi Mark
Good to hear of a retailer using demo rackets. There are not many of them around.
Best of luck with your test. Please let me know how you find the Z Slash.
To your success.
Paul
Mark
Thanks for the info on your Z Slash test.
I’m really pleased you managed to test the racket. Your story echos what’s happened with many players including the pros.
They tested the racket and decidsed to stick with what they’ve got. Yes, it’s a powerful racket, but it’s not going to supercharge your smash.
For players who lack beef completely, it can be a revelation if they manage to control the timing issues. For others, there’s barely any difference because they can smash the shuttle really hard anyway.
At900P is a really good racket. I have used it a lot and still love it. However, for me I found Arc8DX a better overall racket and this will be my choice for next season.
Z Slash frustrated me. I wanted it to work so much and yet it just wasn’t going to give me what I wanted from a racket. It’s still an extremely good racket but for me, it needs to be stiffer.
Mark, it makes you realise how good the Armortec range really is. I think some players are almost writing it off because it’s been around for a while. However, many of the pros prefer Armortec to Arcsabers, and very few use Nano. What does that say?
Thanks again Mark for letting us know how you demo went.
Paul
We seem to agree on how good the AT900P is and it is a racket that you have chosen to use a lot too.
Therefore I’m curious to find out why you prefer the Arc8DX more. What are the differences between that racket and the AT900P?
Hi Mark
Yes, I really love AT900P.
I felt the Arc8DX had a really solid feel but wasn’t as chunky head wise as AT900P. There was less weight in the head and therefore I could work faster in defence and the net area.
Whilst the head isn’t as heavy as AT900P, I thought that this racquet still delivered a really good smash compared to the loss of power I had with Nano9900.
So, I just felt that for what I want these days, the racquet felt so much more me and fit my overall tastes.
Ask me again when I’m fit and playing matches and I’ll let you know whether I’m still in love with Arc8DX or have returned to At900P.
Paul
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your detailed review of the new Arcsaber Z-Slash.
I have been considering buying it for a while now and have been trying to get as much feedback on it from players as possible.
For your reference I have been using the Armotech 900 P with a string tension of 24lbs (BG80).
I have a few questions which I hope you don’t mind answering:
1) What are the main/biggest differences I will notice between these two rackets?
2) How do they compare in terms of power/smashing? Is there a noticeable difference?
3) Where is the cheapest place to buy one? I have seen some on Ebay which are supposedly genuine but am scared about getting fakes! e.g. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300358223338&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
4) What are the different types I keep on hearing about e.g. SP, JP etc ? What are the differences between them?
Thanks,
Mark
Hi Mark
Many thanks for your questions.
I’ve used the AT900P a lot, it’s a great racket. I’ve also extensively tested the Z Slash and will be using it in a match tonight, so I do feel qualified in answering your questions. I also have my AT900P in my bag tonight so will be playing with that too.
At900P is a solid head-heavy racket. It’s powerful and responsive. The Z Slash differs because of a number of factors:
1) It has a slightly longer shaft and therefore there is more flex.
2) The construction of Z Slash makes it incredibly fast cutting through the air to deliver power. You could notice a difference in your timing is required to get the best from this racket. Expect mishits to begin with.
3) The racket head on Z Slash is slightly thinner and there is slightly less string area. Potentially, this means you won’t need to string it as tight to get the same result as a higher tension in your AT900P. Again, it’s not much, but makes a difference. This part of the racket is easy to adjust to.
When you master Z Slash, i believe it delivers more smashing power than AT900P. It’s probably a little slower in defence because of the longer shaft, but over time you can improve your hand speed to compensate. There’s very little difference when playing at the net.
Ebay is a notoriously bad place to buy Yonex rackets. Many are fakes. Also, if you do not buy a UK registered racket and you have problems, Yonex UK will not assist you whatsoever in any kind of exchange.
If you buy from abroad, you also have to remember that your parcel is liklely to be stopped at customs and a surcharge levied. Any goods inward to UK with a value greater than £18 (don’t quote me on this figure) may be subject to import duty. I’ve brought goods in from USA in the past and paid some heavy duty fees, so be careful.
When Yonex create a racket they give them serial numbers (an expensive process I am told). Part of the serial number relates to the country it is due to be shipped to although that is now in question as SP versions (Singapore) are being sold to USA. I don’t have an up-to-date policy from Yonex to know what all this means.
JP versions (Japan) are said by some to be better than SP versions. As I understand it, there is no such thing as a China version so there’s a big clue when you look at ebay.
I can only assume that UK version is virtually the same as SP version but haven’t a clue what the difference is compared to JP version. At the time of writing, I don’t know how many other serial prefixes are used.
Most Yonex rackets are made in Japan, with the exception of some, but not all, of the lower end range.
If you live in North West UK, then contact me and I can arrange a demo session for you. If not, check out local stockists from Yonex website and ask them if they have demos (sadly not many do).
I suppose the big online badminton shops may be a good bet to get excellent deals. I don’t think but cannot confirm whether they have demo models for you to try.
Personally, I’d try before committing £150 + on a racket. You may not like Z Slash and then it’s money well saved.
Yonex will be releasing new rackets this year. I suspect only one of the new releases will potentially fall into your radar and that is Arcsaber 8DX although it’s not confirmed yet when or if it is coming into UK. More news will be available shortly.
Hope this helps a little. Feel free to either comment again or email me direct.
To your success.
Paul
Paul,
I really appreciate your help, I certainly feel it has made my mind up as to what I will do.
I live in Reading. I am fortunate enough to live fairly near a Yonex dealer whom I go to regularly for re-stringing as I break my BG 80 strings within a few months.
They sell the Arcsaber for £162 and they do allow demos. I inquired about how the demos work. It’s £10 deposit for the week which goes towards the cost of the racket if I decide to buy it.
The demo Z-Slash he has is stung with BG65 TI @ 17lbs, so I have asked if he would be wiling to restring it with BG80 @ 24lbs.
He said he will do that 🙂
So thanks to your insightful words I will demo it and see how I get on.
Hi Paul,
I tried out the Z-Slash demo racket from my local Yonex retailer last Friday at my club practice night.
After hearing and reading reviews of this racket’s smashing potential I was very excited going into this demo and my expectations were, looking back in hindsight perhaps too high!
Here are the details:
Similarly to you, I had problems with timing overhead shots to begin with, but after a while I adapted so this wasn’t a major issue for me.
As a player with a powerful smash I was expecting a noticeable difference in power with this racket to warrant the advertising (world record smash etc) and of course the price tag. For me though, the smashing difference between this racket and my AT900P was minimal. I did take into account that the Z-Slash demo racket did not have the right strings or string tension to get the most power from the racket, but even with my ideal string set-up, it wouldn’t produce smash power too far beyond what I currently get with my AT900P.
Also, I’m not yet comfortable defending against smashes from the opponent or playing delicate net-shots as I found I was still missing the sweet spot by the end of the practice (although there was improvement from start of session to end of session). I think the narrower head and longer shaft of the racket is the reason for the miss-hits. Something that I would get used to over time.
So overall the racket is still very good don’t get me wrong, but this WOW factor people have been experiencing simply wasn’t there for me. Maybe because I use a powerful smash racket already the power escalations are more subtle than they would be for players who were used to using a more balanced racket?
If the AT900P didn’t exist I’d no doubt go for the Z-slash because of the powerful smashes, but based on first impressions, it’s not a racket which has got me excited like the AT900P did when I first got it.
Mark
thanks for the advice Paul. Really appreciates it. i think i\’ll get another z-slash cos i really love the power n speed of this racket. =)
Hi David
Welcome to my blog and thank you for your comment.
I’m sorry to read of the demise of your racket. As you know rackets are meant to hit shuttles and not other rackets.
Recently, my Nano 9900 broke in a game of mixed doubles. My partner inexplicably decided that the shuttle up the middle of the court was better being struck on her weak high backhand rather than my forehand smash.
Sometimes, it’s not about whether a frame is weak or not, it’s about the angle of the collision. All top-end rackets are made of similar materials and therefore they are subject to breakage from a collision.
If you like the Z Slash and it’s improved your game, why would you want to get any other racket? Your decision should be based around the results you have got from Z Slash compared to other rackets. If they are superior, then buy another Z Slash. If there is no difference, then you’ve got to question whether it’s a good investment for you.
I’ve said so many times in my reviews that rackets are personal. What suits one is awful to another. Choose on what is right for you rather than the headlines. There’s no question the Z Slash is a good racket. The big question is how much it’s done for you?
Hope this helps with your decision. Let me know what you choose to do.
To your success
Paul
hai there paul, i owned a z-slash for 2 months only an the frame bent when i mishit a smash a few days ago. when i checked carefully i found out that the bending area came from the paint chip which i had it when the racket clashed wit my friend’s racket weeks ago. my tension is only at 23lbs. is it due to the thinner frame that the durability is reduced? cos i’m thinking of getting a new arc z. or should i get an armortec because the frame is thicker n more durable. hope u can give some opinions. thanks for your time Paul. have a nice day 🙂
Hi Max
Congratulations on your purchase.
The Arcsaber Z Slash is a great racket and I hope you see a significant improvement in your game using this racket.
Paul
i bought z slash few weeks ago and string it at 28lb…… great racket to use…. i might add.. best racket i ever used.
Hi Elwin
Your story is very familiar. You’ve probably read my posts on this fantastic racket. The Z Slash certainly takes some getting used to. But, if you persevere, I do beleive you will be rewarded.
Many thanks for your comment and let me know how you two are getting on in a few weeks time.
Paul
Hi Paul,
I played with my Z slash this friday and first thing I noticed was a timing issue while smashing/clearing/ and some backhands. The harder I wanted to smash, the more I felt I had to adjust my timing. Because the way it sweeps, was just so quick. But yes, when hitting it ‘on the spot’ the speed of the shuttle was amazing. So I played a few games ( no competition) and I really had to get used to the racquet but I was satisfied with my own overall performance with this racquet. It gave me some extra power and therefore I played a bit more aggresive then I’m used to.
So I quess I found myself a new ‘partner’ , it’s not an easy racquet, I made more forced errors then usual, but I think it’s gonna work out well the more I play with it!
greetings,
Elwin
Hi Elwin
Happy New Year.
I hope you’ll love the Z Slash as much as I do. Whilst I’m still using Nano 9900, it’s very likely that I’ll switch rackets at the end of the season. There’s no point switching mid-season.
Keep in touch and please let me know if there any particular topics you’d like covered on a video or article.
To your success in 2010.
Paul
Hey Paul,
Happy New year and thanks for the review.
I just ordered a Z slash, I haven’t played with it before I ordered it, just read a view reviews and comparisons. I’ve tried the nano9900 en 9000 series, I liked it but my intuition told me to buy the Z slash.
So I hope I receive it soon (bought it online here in the Netherlands) and let you know how I feel about it!
greetz,
Elwin
Al
Enjoy your Z Slash.
Happy New Year to you too!
Paul
me too. that’s what i’ve ended up doing
happy new year
Hi Max
That’s a really tough question! Do i go with Nano 9900 as it’s the one I’m using this season or take the plunge and use Z Slash.
I thought about teasing you with my answer and say that I’d think about it over the holidays. But, that wouldn’t be fair would it.
So, if I really had to make a choice, I think I take my game into adventureland and choose Z Slash.
Paul
after the using nanospeed 9900 and arcsaber z slash, if both rackets are broken and u need to buy a new racket, which model will u buy ?
thanks.
max
Hi Joseph
I’d have to say BG80 is by far the most popular string with the pros and top players. Second favourite is Yonex BG65Ti.
But, the best string is the one you prefer and not others. You may find Nanogy string better for your rackets and style of game.
If you can, I’d test each string at the same tension and then you are in a position to decide for yourself.
It’s very important to choose your own path in sport and not necessarily follow the majority. Test strings and tensions your way, with a little guidance. Make decisions based on how you feel, and please be careful not to be led by hearsay, ego and copying the pros.
To your success.
Paul
Hi Joseph
The AT 900 Power is a great racket, I know, that was my first racket with Yonex.
Across most of the range, Yonex recommends 24lbs tension on a racket. That doesn’t mean the pros don’t exceed this because they do. But they don’t pay for their rackets.
You haven’t had a problem with your AT900 have you, and 24lbs is the recommended tension for that racket too.
Bear in mind that when recommended tensions are exceeded, then you void your warranty.
There are lots of manufactures now looking carefully at this. Some have chosen higher recommended tensions, others around 24lbs. I know of a manufacturer that has 30lbs recommended tension on their racket. And yet, a professional stringer was stringing a new one at 25lbs and the racket broke.
The debate over string tension will continue. Players are pushing for higher tensions. We are now entering squash racket tensions and these rackets have much thicker frames than badminton.
My concern here, and no disrespect to you, league players and kids are copying. The problem and danger here is that most of these players haven’t the technique to cope with and get the best out of the racket at this tension. Consequently, injuries occur.
String choice is an interesting one. I spoke with the stringer at the English Nationals. He confirmed that the most popular string for the players was Yonex BG80 and in second place was Yonex BG65Ti.
Whilst you may be a big hitter, what is the most important criteria for you regarding string? Do you want better feel or are you more interested in endurance?
You see Yonex BG80 is the no1 string used by the pros. But, it doesn’t matter how often they break strings because they get the restring at the tournament.
Personally, I prefer Yonex BG65Ti. It’s a slightly thicker string compared to BG80 and therefore has slightly more durability. That said, if you’re a hard hitter and mishit, then the chances are you will break a string.
If you change to a thicker string than BG65Ti then you lose the performance characteristics and your racket may feel “dull” in comparison.
After all is said and done, you do need to test and decide for yourself what suits your game. Sorry to say, it’s usually an expensive test. What I would do is talk to your stringer. A good one will work with you and give you a discount because they understand the testing process.
OK Joseph I think I’ve covered everything. Feel free to email me with your questions.
Thanks Paul,
Regarding strings, which is better: Yonex Nanogy 98 or BG80?
Well said,
Hi Paul,
I’m using Armortec 900 Power, which I restrung on 27lbs. I want to ask if the Arcsaber Z-Slash could withstand 26lbs, because my money could be wasted in stringing the racket too much. I also want to ask if what is the best string appropriate for the Z-Slash, considering that I’m a more hard-hitter.
Hoping for your response,
Joseph
Al
Many thanks for your kind comments. Having just returned from club and lost my games in 3, you brought a smile to my face…I don’t like to lose!
When I next review a new racket, I am going to do a video review rather than a wrttien review. I may have to wait a while for a new racket to be launched in UK.
Sorry you’ve also got a shuttle speed problem. And yes, that’s a pretty common attitude in UK too.
Keep in touch.
Paul
Hi Paul,
I spent an enjoyable evening reading the stuff on your site.
Looking forward to more comparison between these rackets when you get the chance. What will you choose for yourself and what will you recommend for different kinds of player? Interesting to know.
I\’m in Belgium. The slow shuttle problem is here as well. People don\’t get what those little marks are on the tramlines and they don\’t care to have it explained to them…
All the best and keep going.
Al
Thanks Paul
Agree with you on that, I dun get why they wanna hv diff. versions as well. And the price differences is big, most people wld just go for the cheaper ones. I’ve never tested myself and only hearsay that it’s heavier.
Again thanks for all the tips n reviews.
Hi Jason
Thanks for your comments.
I’ve not had the pleasure of trying a JP version, only UK version, and therefore cannot answer your question.
It wouldn’t make much sense to introduce a racket and then make a “special” version just for one market. The cost of production would be a lot higher. And, if they did, what would they add to this racket to make it any better?
I understand that one of the most expensive areas of production is the laser etching of serial numbers. At the end of the day, this is an anti-fraud addition to the racket, although it doesn’t stop the trade in fake rackets.
Sorry I can’t help futher on this one. If I do manage to test a JP version, I’ll post my findings on my blog and let you know.
To your success.
Paul
Tks for the review, it helps me to decide if I shld get it. Like you I also have the AT900P and NS9900(which am currently using). Love the NS9900 but thought of giving the Z-Slash a try. Price here is much cheaper compare to the UK, it’s only HKD1291 for the SP model. The JP model is over HKD1800. Is it true that the JP model is much heavier compare to SP?
What do you think?hello i just asking wat racket is good 2 smash plz help me?
Hi James
Welcome to my blog and thank you for your question.
From all of the rackets I’ve tried the clear winner for me is Arcsaber Z Slash. I could generate more power with that racket compared to the other Yonex rackets I’ve tested.
I don’t know which racket will best suit you and give you the result you want. Test as many rackets as you can and let me know which one gave you the best smash.
To your success in 2010
Paul